Cinecast Episode 483 – Drag Me to Hell

We’ve come full circle. The Cinecast started with an argument on Alien and almost ten years later it continues with an argument about Alien: Covenant (SPOILERS!). Almost ninety minutes of chatting about the inner-workings of Ridley Scott’s brain and his plan for the current state of, and future of the Alien franchise. Something things to love, some things that aren’t quite as lovely. But rest assured with double the Fassbender, there is a lot to discuss here. After that, we try to rank out the order of Fincher’s filmography should be exposed to children after some talk on Zodiac. Our beloved Romancing the Stone makes another Cinecast appearance as well as Mendelsohn and Reynolds grinding through Mississippi. And hey Tarantino’s breakout hit is actually a master class in editing. We talk about the kids’ experience with “R” rated material and remember our own childhoods and being turned away from the multiplex for not having the proper ID.

Turns out the Alien franchise is a nice morning warm-up and we’re happy to share it with you. But beware of face-huggers and SPOILERS! As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

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TIME TRACKS:

Opening: :00 – 2:42
In-House Business/Other: 2:43 – 7:50
Alien Covenant: (SPOILERS!) 7:52 – 1:36:01
The Watch List: 1:36:03 – 2:41:30
– Bringing kids to “R” rated movies (Fincher/Eastwood/1984)
Next Week/Outro: 2:41:32 – 2:51:08
Closing Music: 2:49:02 – 2:52:17


MAIN REVIEWS:

Alien: Covenant (SPOILERS!)


THE WATCH LIST:

KURT
Romancing The Stone
Reservoir Dogs
Mississippi Grind
Zodiac


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Richard Vance
Guest

I have not yet listened but I am on team Covenant is both a good time at the movies and a good movie (better than Prometheus but still only the 4th best film in this series)

Rick Vance
Guest

Andrew I have an answer for you about the ship thing.

They are talking about two different ships in those two scenes, the Covenant is what they are talking about the second time they are talking about the stresses on the thing in the cargo bay that McBride flies to the surface.

Andrew James
Guest

New Twin Peaks is on Amazon BTW.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

And Shudder in Canada.

Andrew James
Guest

And I’m wrong anyway. It’s Showtime. But available through Amazon to watch if you have a Showtime subscription. Confusing.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Twin Peaks is streamable on Crave, not Shudder – http://www.cravetv.ca/twinpeaks

Also, Kurt’s going to have to wait a long time until he can binge the whole thing. The finale won’t be until September.

Sean Kelly
Guest

On a slight related note, Amazon Prime recently expanded into Canada and I decided to try it out.

First thing I did? Binge watch Unsolved Mysteries for about 8 hours, which I loved watching as a kid.

Andrew James
Admin

Was it the “new” Unsolved Mysteries or is it the one with Robert Stack? Some of that shit scared the crap out of me as a boy.

Sean Kelly
Guest

The Robert Stack ones of course. I never watched the brief 2008 revival with Dennis Farina.

Currently Amazon Prime (Canada) has the first 5 seasons of the show, though I hope all 13 (plus the original specials) get added. Even though the productions is quite dated (this is a show that ran from the late 1980s through the 1990s after all), the show is still as scary as it ever was. It’s also interesting to note that while watching the first season, I came across at least 3 cases that deals with the Satanic Panic of the 1980s and 1990s, including a theory that the Son of Sam murders were committed by a Satanic Cult and that the guy convicted for the crimes was just one member.

It is interesting to note that the website for the show is still active and you can submit tips for the cases that are still not solved.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I think there’s actually very little CGI for the creatures in Alien: Covenant. They even have cast members credited for the Neomorph (white Aliens) and Xenomorph (traditional Alien).

Andrew James
Admin

I think all/most of the CGI is for the little screaming fetuses that run around the ship in that first action sequence on the planet.

devolutionary
Guest

Put me in the Pro-Covenant camp, though I still prefer Prometheus. The alien aspect was the least interesting part. But it is funny hearing Kurt make so many concessions for the film. I’m just willing to ignore several plot-holes, canon-tweaking, and the tossing aside of the Engineers. Maybe they are meant to be the next evolution of flawed idols to David but it feels like yet another prequel explanation in the making. The only other plot logic that bugged me was the fact there was only 1 single drop-ship for a giant travel colony of 2000 people. Yet even the smaller Sulaco in Aliens could deploy 2 ships for transport. Also, while it is for audience benefit, I don’t recall any of the survivors watching the Walter/David fight so none of them would’ve noticed the face cut that David re-applies to mimic Walter. It’s silly cause the twist is so obviously telegraphed.

devolutionary
Guest

Btw Andrew, you were originally correct. Sudden Impact uses “Go ahead make my day”. I believe every movie pushed a catchphrase but only 2 stuck. Magnum Force uses “A man has has got to know his limitations”.
This scene from Sudden Impact always wins though.
https://youtu.be/ZpZ_fakwSwc

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