Cinecast Episode 441 – Lust and Aimlessness


Back on track with Shane Black. The boys are able to reconvene this week with not one, but two main theatrical reviews for your spoiler pleasure. We start it off this week with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling in a good old fashioned buddy-cop, action/comedy The Nice Guys. It really ties the room together.

Next up is Yorgos Lanthimos’ first English language film, The Lobster. This one is a little bit more difficult to parse out. It stars one Colin Farrell and one Rachel Weiss among others; it is a twisted and comedic (deadpan?) look at love, relationships and dating in a world painted like only this particular director can portray. Kurt and Andrew attempt to hash out what it all means. Kurt revisits the glory days of Saturday morning cartoons and Andrew just wishes he had seven bowls of Captain’s Peanut Butter Crunch.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

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The Nice Guys
The Lobster



– “Gilligan’s Planet”, “Star Trek”, “Dungeons & Dragons”, “Teen Wolf”, “Rocky and Bullwinkle”, “Scooby-Doo”
The Little Prince



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Nat Almirall

Kurt — have you and/or LJ seen The Late Show from 1977? I think it’s something you’d both love, since you two loved The Nice Guys. I can’t say for certain, but I’m pretty sure The Late Show had a very profound impact on Shane Black


It is deeply weird that I look like Shia LaBeouf in this poster.


That poster is freaking me out

In-house business: 00:46
The Nice Guys [SPOILERS] 5:20
The Lobster [SPOILERS] 38:35
Cartoons, Cereal and Then Ice Cream 1:13:50
More Nice Guys, Lobster & More: 1:35:06
Next Week: 1:45:24
End: 1:50:30
The Lobster was shot entirely in Kerry in Ireland which was pointed out EVERY single time the film was mentioned on British Tv & Radio 😀

I fall in the middle on The Lobster. It’s interesting, i’m glad i watched it, it’s very nice to look at but ultimately i didn’t care. Only Dogtooth from the Lanthimos stable of films has fully satisfied me.


Really enjoyed The Lobster. I think the deadpan delivery of everyone’s lines had to be essential to the film. Any emotion, especially positive would mean people actually could have real friendships and relationship in this society. The deadpan had to show a social awkwardness and disconnect. Weisz’s character seemed to be the outlier. It seemed to me the real protagonist and antagonist were Weisz and Leydoux. Romanticism vs. cynicism. Notice that the female characters in the film (except Weisz) were cruel and even murderous.

Kurt Halfyard

I heart deadpan.

And it’s not just Weisz vs. Leydoux, Olivia Colman (superb!) offers a third angle in this ideological fight.

The Dreamer, The Rebel, The Establishment.


It’s ironic that the Rebel was the daughter of the only couple in the film that seemed to not be living a lie within their relationship. They’re both musicians. But then the filmmaker seems to be saying that it’s “short-sighted” to believe a happy relationship is built on a commonality. Couples had no problem lying to the establishment in order to stay together. But, not lying to themselves was even more important for Farrell’s character. It’s odd that at the end he felt like he HAD to do something to keep the relationship. BS’ing the establishment wasn’t enough for him. Lots to chew on with this film.

Sean Kelly

I would have liked to go to that Saturday Morning Cartoons screening, however I went to the cottage for the Victoria Day Long Weekend.

I’m an early Millennial and Saturday Morning Cartoons were a big part of my childhood. I remember I would wake up as early as 5am to watch a wide variety of shows.

Some of cartoons I remember watching at some point in my childhood (late 80s/early 90s) include:
– The Real Ghostbusters
– Transformers
– Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
– The Super Mario Super Show (as well as shows based on Super Mario 3 and Super Mario World)
– Captain N The Game Master
– Camp Candy (John Candy as camp Councillor)
– The Comic Strip (3 mini shows in one)
– The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show
– X-Men
– Pro Stars (Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordon, and Bo Jackson as superheroes)
– Chip and Dales Rescue Rangers
– Ducktails
– Goof Troop
– Darkwing Duck
– Tailspin
– Doug
– Rugrats

That’s just a small percentage of the shows I watched as a kid (both in Saturday Morning and After School programming blocks). It’s mindboggling how much content there used to be, since Saturday Morning Cartoons are no longer really a thing.

Kurt Halfyard

I think your age was the very last of the Saturday Morning Cartoon Generation, Sean!

Sean Kelly

Perhaps, assuming I’m the same generation as my younger brother, since Saturday Morning Cartoons was still a thing when he was a kid in the late-1990s/early-2000s.

Sean Kelly

Me and my brother both count as Millennials (born between 1980 and 1995), so I guess we WERE part of the final Saturday Morning Cartoon generation.

Kurt Halfyard

Fun Fact: The Teenwolf cartoon that was shown during the cartoon party was written by Linda Woolverton, who ended up going on to write THE LION KING, and the two big budget ALICE IN WONDERLAND movies for Disney, the second of which comes out this weekend.