After the Hype #133 – Batman (1989) v. Superman (1978)

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Where do we get such wonderful toys ideas for episodes? Our brains, duh! You know what’s a no-brainer? Checking out this “VS” episode. We’ve got BATMAN V SUPERMAN as it was meant to be, with the 1989 and 1978 films respectively. Graham joins us to go over what makes these films so iconic and why they’ve the staying power that the new DC films only wish they had. #JonBias

 

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WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN DOING?

The part of the show where we catch up with what everyone is doing. Yes, we named this section such on purpose. It’s funny. Haha.

BRYAN – Daredevil S2
RYAN – Daredevil S2
JON – Hearthstone
GRAHAM – Luther, River, The Fall

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RATING SYSTEM

Where we pick a different piece of media to rate the media we consumed. This week:

NO RATING SYSTEM

Instead we chat about what we want out of the new film coming out and what we’re most excited for. Kina hype’y? Maybe. Shutup. Only god can judge us.

 

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Jonathan
Guest

I rewatched some of the ’78 Superman the other day… man, is it painful. Not even nostalgia could make me enjoy the Lex Luther scenes!

Andrew James
Admin

Agreed. II and III are great. I and IV are unbelievably terrible. IV especially terrible.

Jonathan Hardesty
Guest

I actually quite like 1, and primarily because of the quirks. It has weird poetic asides and long 2001’esque monologues in space by Marlon Brando. It’s almost artsy-fartsy in a way that’s endearing and a nice palate cleanse from today’s grimdark.

And Supes gets right to work, even doing the mundane stuff like cats in trees. I dunno. I can’t help but come back to the first Superman movie here with joy when almost every interpretation since has felt kinda like a drag.

And it doesn’t have the weird “S” blanket throw that always felt weird in Superman 2.

Andrew James
Admin

I think that “blanket throw” is not in the Richard Donner cut of the movie. Can’t remember for sure the differences, but if I remember correctly, the end fight is much shorter in the Donner cut.

I remember liking the Lester cut better except the way in which Lois figures out Clark is Supes. I love the Donner way of solving that issue.

devolutionary
Guest

I actually agree with you. Oddly enough my feelings on I and II have reversed somewhat since I saw them long ago. I like them equally now where I used to find the original quite forgettable. As an origin story, it’s written quite well with the only disappointment being the haphazardly thrown together final act. It would’ve been stronger if Lex Luther was given more to chew on or left out of the denouement altogether (obviously needed to market a villain). I’m also sure it would’ve been amazing to experience in 1978 for the first time.
I don’t find it fair to criticize the Lester vs Donner S2 cut since a lot of it was left out of their hands (blame the Salkinds).
You guys also beat Canon to the punch.
https://soundcloud.com/the-canon-podcast/70-batman-v-superman

antho42
Guest

Batman Returns>>> Batman. More batshit, better design, Catwomen, and the Walken

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