Mamo 439: Ghostbusters #Hottake

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The last thing the world needs is another couple of straight white guys telling you what they think of the all-female Ghostbusters trailer, but we’re gonna tell you anyway – with a meta twist, because we’re going to talk about what we think of the opinions of the other straight white guys. Plus: American Hitler! Who ya gonna call?

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Antho42
Guest

Missing the big point– Trump is a godsend for Democrats. He has prevented the elite led GOP initiative of being welcoming to minorities, primarily Hispanics. He has attacked and made a mockery of the Conservative intellectuals– including the reformicons, Neocons, libertarians, and the orthdox Establishment types. He has helped ushered in an existential crisis within the GOP. I am loving it.

Goon
Guest

godsend or not, getting to the nomination is way too close. What’s that quote – “The road to Auschwitz is paved with indifference”. So much of this shit has been “shrug. its funny now. we’ll take care of it later”. Maybe its because we’ve been through Ford, but as much as I can recognize Trump’s oafishness as being funny from time to time, on the whole, the run has never been funny, and all laughter at his expense has been to cope with how horrible this is.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

The Rob Ford analogy is certainly apt. The stakes are much higher down south though.

Antho42
Guest

The California GOP managed to turn Nixonland and Reaganland into a Blue State. They had very antimigrant rheoteric. Thanks for that.

Antho42
Guest

He has no chance in the general, as well. With him in the race, it is going to boost voter turnout for Democrats.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

Yup, there was an recent article from Gallup about Trump’s negative image, which according to their polls 60% of Americans hate the guy. That they have never seen a major candidate have such a negative image since they came up with their current system to judge candidates in 1992. One of the few times a politician managed to beat that negative rating was at the end of George W. Bush’s year term as president in 2008 when 66% of Americans saw him negatively.

That is how bad Trump is doing with the rest of the Americans, in that he is comparative to the end of George W. Bush’s when so many hated him.

Definitely, one of the main reasons that Republicans are so scared of him is that they see him tearing down the Republican party as he goes down in flames in the election.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

Regarding the mythology of Ghostbusters, there are certainly a lot of people there who certainly love it. Part of that might just be as they say different strokes for different folks, that someone with a personality so say Dan Aykroyd might find the mythology stuff really interesting, even when you throw a giant marshmallow man.

Also I wonder how much the expanded universe of Ghostbusters had to do with that. As a kid in the 1980’s I enjoyed “The Real Ghostbusters” animated tv show. Looking it up online, it ran for 7 seasons running 147 episodes, plus a Slimer spin-off. The was also apparently a sequel series in 1997 called “Extreme Ghostbusters” where old Egon mentors a new generation of Ghostbusters. Anyways, it was kicking around quite some time and I would see kids who were younger than me who were first introduced to Ghostbusters through these animated series, as they were still too young for the movies. Then there’s the comics, video games and a lot of content for fans to get into without the involvement of the comedians who made the original two movies.

Also I still contend that there were some good and interesting Transformer stories from Marvel comics. Yes, they are giant transforming robots which are inherently goofy and silly. You know what else is silly a an intelligent, anthropomorphic raccoon, who is an expert marksman and master tactician, who is friends with a sentient walking tree who can only say the word “I Am Groot!”. Yet people have managed to take these very goofy and silly characters and have given them interesting story arcs and made people care about them. The writer Simon Furman managed to do that in the comics for the Transformers and we have never gotten anything resembling that with the horrible movies that Michael Bay made.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

I believe that the reason that I, personally, do not find the new trailer all that funny, is that the tone of the original Ghostbusters is deadpan (yes even the 1984 trailer, with Mr. Grindhouse voice-over), and the tone of the reboot trailer is mostly earnest, and/or, as Price said, “GOING FOR IT.” Now that may not be the tone of the final GB2016 film…but Feig’s filmography suggest it will be.

devolutionary
Guest

THIS. Not that I truly find Ghostbusters to be that precious. I mean the film rights were purchased from an even earlier Filmation TV show and (Scooby-Dooish) cartoon in the 70s. The 1984 film (and 2nd to a lesser extent) works on many levels. As a child I saw it as a really fun, quirky ghost/adventure with funny engaging characters. As an adult, I see it for the smart, comically well-timed, Ivan Reitman creation it truly is, with a paranormal/sci-fi adventure on the side.
Of course trailers don’t mean everything but I do feel bad for Leslie Jones over the Twitter backlash.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2858348/leslie-jones-responds-to-ghostbusters-racism-controversy/

Matthew Price
Guest

This seems like what you are saying is that one style of comedy is in some way superior to another – I would reject this as a very limiting way to enjoy being entertained. Comedy isn’t one thing, or even a limited number of things.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I am not saying that at all. My personal tastes in comedy run towards deadpan, understated, just like I like savory treats over sugary ones. I’m saying my reaction towards not finding much funny (except for Kate Mackinnon, whose background expressions and body-language are far more in the goofy deadpan style.) in the trailer, is due to the shift in tone of comedy from one version to the next, not the shift in gender.

Robert Reineke
Guest

What I’m not interested in is an origin story for the Ghostbusters. I’ve sat through that once and I’d rather just get to the ghost busting.

That said, the only thing the ultimately matters is whether the movie is funny or not. I think it could be.

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