Cinecast Episode 428 – The Undependables

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Twer the day of the big game. Which makes theaters and restaurants nearly empty. Ergo, Kurt and Andrew are very happy and indulge in the old fashioned style Cinecast complete with an hour long review of Hail, Caesar!, long discussions in each of The Watch List titles and many an unrelated tangent. The popularity of James Cameron’s Avatar continues to baffle the boys while the unpopularity of “lesser” Coen Brothers fare is equally stupefying. We ask for listeners help with casting the next Third Row Productions screenplay that’s in the works. Also Jerry Seinfeld is back with a new season of “talking shop” with comedians in (usually) cool cars. Doesn’t seem like much, but all of the fun adds up in this 3+ hour, old-school Cinecast. Listen up, we’ve got all your secret shit right here!

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

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TIME TRACKS:

See comments for time track listings – thanks to Ultimolee for the extra elbow grease!

 

MAIN REVIEW:

Hail, Caesar!

 

THE WATCH LIST:

ANDREW
– “Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee” (s7)
Mississippi Grind
Avatar
Burn After Reading

KURT
Burn After Reading

 

OTHER THINGS:

Kurt at The MatineeCast
The Prisoner Podcast
Soundtrack of Your Life w/Kurt (coming soon)
Jandy’s Flickchart article on Hail Caesar references

 

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Antho42
Guest

Croupier is a good film. One of Cive Owen’s best performance.

Kurt
Guest

Agreed. I was fortunate enough to have a very brief conversation with director Mike Hodges at Tiff when he was there with another Clive Owen flick, I’LL SLEEP WHEN I’M DEAD (which also starred Charlotte Rampling.) He is a hyper intelligent, and zero-bullshit kind of guy.

antho42@gmail.com
Guest

Unlike the cult following of Croupier, many people disliked I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead. I quite enjoyed the film. Owen has a very Bondesque scene in it. Found the film legally free in Youtube:

UltimoLee
Guest

Opening:
In-house business: 01:25
Hail, Caesar! [SPOILERS] 11:37
The Watch List: 1:22:23
Next Week: 2:51:22
End: 3:03:12

Andrew
Guest

For the undependables: Garrett Hedlund for sure, and maybe Taylor Kitsch and Aaron Taylor-Johnson.

devolutionary
Guest

Agreed! On the female side, I’d add Michelle Rodriguez (in Avatar also) and January Jones. Michelle does the aggressive/fighter role well and that’s about it. Other than her debut Girlfight, she hasn’t impressed me in anything. I don’t care much for Jai Courtenay but he was cast perfectly as a supporting officer in The Water Diviner. I think shoddy casting is more to blame for these undependables than anything.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

Excellent calls on Taylor Kitsch and Aaron Taylor-Johnson.

filmstache
Guest

Joel Kinneman

UltimoLee
Guest

Is Shia Labeouf to on the nose?

Personally i’d also have Joseph Fiennes and Ben Barnes.

schizopolis
Guest

Lead undependable…Josh Duhamel. He’s as bland as it gets.

devolutionary
Guest

Not that I ever bothered using RedBox kiosks but I always found it ironic to place them near a Safeway or Walmart where you could buy 80% of their selection for just a few $ more in-store. Lame, but until last year, you could make up any BS reason to return them to Walmart if unsatisfied.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Those with Photoshop skills, please start drafting various one-sheets of the Undependables for us, group shots of images of these actors trying oh-so-very-hard would seemingly be the way to go.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I own Avatar on blu-ray and still quite like the film, though I will agree that I don’t understand the undying love people had for the film when it was in theatre (which apparently included suffering from Pandora-withdrawal).

BTW, there are actually THREE cuts of the film on the special edition blu-ray:
– Theatrical Release
– Extended Cut (16 minutes longer)
– Special Edition Re-Release (8 minutes longer) – This version was released in theatres late in the run.

For inquiring minds, here are the differences between the Theatrical Version and Special Edition – http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=659729
And here are the differences between the Special Edition and the Extended Cut – http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=869530

schizopolis
Guest

“The Dane Cook of film”. Perfect description!

I saw a couple good Elliot Gould buddy cop films recently. Busting with Robert Blake, directed by Peter Hyams and SPYS with Donald Sutherland, directed by Empire’s Irvin Kershner. They’re good 70’s films, but Gould is great and at his peak. Busting is basically the 70’s version of Hyam’s Running Scared with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines. I need to rewatch it.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I know you know care much about Rotten Tomatoes but…..
Zoolander 2 – 22% Fresh
Deadpool – 84% Certified Fresh

Just saying.

Kurt
Guest

I shall be skipping both in favour of some catching up. SON OF SAUL is still playing in Toronto, and Nic Roeg’s THE WITCHES is getting a family day screening.

Corey Pierce
Editor

Deadpool is a badly directed comedy the likes of say, Horrible Bosses, with typically generic Marvel crop on top of it. It’s unjustifiably impressed with how naughty it’s being, and the naughtiness is extremely one-note, that the comparisons to Family Guy, while apt, are actually an insult to Family Guy. Family Guy actually has a degree of variety to it, and is capable of making jokes about more than 3 things. Well cast? Yes, that casting got the movie made. But beyond that it’s a Funny or Die video stretched well beyond due from a special effects guy turned first-time-director.

James Gunn’s Super and the first Kick-Ass (even though it hasn’t aged that well) tread similar territory and slay this.

Andrew James
Admin

Well said. I haven’t seen it, but your last sentence nailed it for me. I’m sick and tired of these “unconventional” (read as: crass, schlub, drunk, meta, etc.) super hero movies being hailed as amazing as if they’re the first to do it or “we have never seen anything like this”.

I would zero interest, but I’ll check it out as a Monday night rental sometime in July.

Corey Pierce
Editor

I failed to add Venture Bros to the “watch this instead” list. Season 1-2 of that show look/feel pretty rough now, but it’s currently one of the best written shows on TV.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Technically Deadpool is the first to do it, since the character predates properties like Super and Kick-Ass by at least a decade (the first Deadpool comic was released in 1991).

I also think it is incredibly unfair to lump this film into the “Marvel machine,” since it has been a huge uphill battle to get this film made (Ryan Reynolds has been wanting to play the character in a film for at least a decade). If anything, the Marvel machine was almost responsible for killing the chances for a Deadpool movie by including a very unfaithful version of the character in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

I’m seeing this film this afternoon and I am very pumped (as you can guess by this Instagram photo I made a couple days ago). While the Deadpool movie may be pandering to the fans, I will say that I am most definitely a fan and I can’t wait to be pandered to!

Corey Pierce
Editor

It’s not a matter of who did what first, it’s a matter of who did what well. Each of these other examples is doing something (the film) Deadpool wants to do, but significantly better.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Verdict: While I can understand why people wouldn’t like Deadpool (I.e. Too much of the plot spent on origin story), the film was overall exactly what I wanted, with me leaving quite entertained.

Oh and apologies in advance Corey 😈

Sean Kelly
Guest

If you are wondering why I was apologizing to Corey, I targeted his comparisons of Deadpool and Super in my very meta review of Deadpool, more than half of which is written in character as Deadpool (it’s fun getting creative with my writing every once and a while).

Nat Almirall
Guest

Sean, your review needs more nudity. I give it a light 5/7.

Goon
Guest

No apologies necessary…

…because you’re banned.

Just kidding.

(side-eye)

Rick Vance
Guest

This is also what the comics have always been. Well not always because Deadpool wasn’t a funny character when created he got morphed into that in the late 90s.

I don’t understand the appeal in the slightest and to hear from a bunch of people that it is a movie about making fun of tropes and cliches before then wallowing in said tropes and cliches seals the deal for me not seeing it.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Really? My take away was hallucinations of cartoon animals and fourth wall breaks inside of four wall breaks (it’s like 16 walls!)

Sean Kelly
Guest

It’s now officially on the record that James Gunn himself is a fan of DEADPOOL and is more worried about the Hollywood machine misinterpreting the film’s success and greenlight poorly conceived copycats.

Here’s Gunn’s Facebook rant – https://www.facebook.com/jgunn/posts/10153162287591157

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