Cinecast Episode 427 – Stretching the Bubblegum

Was it the weather or is it the shitty inconvenient way films are released in theaters these days? Or does it depend on your geography or disposition? Or a little bit of everything? In short, we didn’t get to the “main releases” (of boats in storms or feminist westerns) this week and instead opted for some VOD experimentation with Vincent Cassell in Partisan. A solid film with problems is the verdict. The Watch List is fairly eclectic this week but a whole lotta witchin’ going on. From Winona Ryder to Vin Diesel, we cover the gamut. Andrew and Kurt also spend some time in the kitchen cooking up some spaghetti westerns before heading to Southeast Asia for a thriller and some kung-fu. Like a snake in the eagle’s shadow, there is no escape for the good the bad or the ugly; there most certainly will be blood inside Llewyn Davis.

#sorrynotsorry

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

 

 
 

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TIME TRACKS:

See comments for time track listings – thanks to Ultimolee for the extra elbow grease!

 

MAIN REVIEW:

Partisan

 

THE WATCH LIST:

KURT
The Crucible (1996)
There Will Be Blood
Snake in the Eagle’s Shadow
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Inside Llewyn Davis

ANDREW
Star Wars (35mm original)
The Last Witch Hunter
Burnt
No Escape
– “Downton Abbey” (s1e1)

 

OTHER THINGS:

Twitch writers emergency help | Please Donate Here
35mm Star Wars restoration
Andrew’s article on intermissions

 

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Sean Kelly
Guest

I know how much you dislike the official STAR WARS releases, but I have to express my disapproval of you putting a torrent link in the show notes.

Do whatever you want in your own time, just don’t encourage others to engage in piracy.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

Did you follow the link? Despite how Andrew named it, the link is actually to an article on the specifics of the Star Wars Team Negative One, and the details on their particular restoration via 35mm print. Despite being labeled as such, it’s not an actual Torrent Link. Link Labeling has been changed.

Andrew James
Guest

Not all torrenting = piracy Sean. Torrents are used for all manner of file sharing. FYI.

In this case, I think it’s a fine line. If you’re torrenting a file that is simply not available by any other means (original version of Star Wars), I wouldn’t really count that as unethical.

In fact, in this case, the movie/file itself is probably illegal (as are The Despecialized Versions), which I will absolutely link to torrents all day long. People should be able to see these things. And if torrent is the only way to do it, I have no problem pointing them in the right direction.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Unless the original filmmaker releases the film for free online (very doubtful in Star Wars’ case), torrenting a film is PIRACY and ILLEGAL, no matter how you try to explain it away.

Not everyone is like you and believes that the official STAR WARS releases are not worth watching. I own the blu-ray set and I have no complaints whatsoever. Yeah, it may suck that the original cuts of the film are not readily available, but it is no excuse to ignore copyright law.

However, you might say “but it’s Star Wars, it does not really have to worry about losing profits due to downloading.” However, if you really think about it, there will be those who download these “Despecialized” versions of STAR WARS and think “Hey, why don’t I just download every film I watch.” That is the danger of piracy.

You can’t lie and say that piracy doesn’t affect the film industry. There are many independent films that are hurt by illegal downloads and it is not something that should be encouraged by any means.

I REFUSE to ever partake in this habit. All the films I watch are obtained by legal means, whether it be physical media or VOD. I can’t ethically call myself a cinephile if I participate in an act that is damaging the film industry. While I do receive advanced screeners for review purposes, I only watch the film once and I never dare download the Vimeo file to my computer (I know a few people who do that).

Sorry for the long rant, but I am just very passionate about this.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Also, before I get called a hypocrite, I have to admit that I am not 100% innocent and did illegally download music for many years. However, I have long since stopped that habit.

Andrew James
Admin

Meh. Whatever. Plain and simple, I just don’t feel bad about it. Illegal or otherwise. I do have morals and a code of ethics; they’re just not always as strict as they maybe should be. If an art form that is meant for consumption by others is made not available to me because of corporation interference, I’ll get it how I can.

I belong to a movie club and a couple of music clubs in which we share movies/music amongst each other through cloud services. To me, that is no different than sharing a DVD or CD with one another and then talking about it.

Gerry
Guest

I’m pretty sure Arthur Miller was as much, if not more, concerned with portraying the McCarthy blacklisting witch hunts in Hollywood in the 50’s as he was in accurately portraying the details of the Salem witch hunts in The Crucible Kurt. What an intelligently written film.

I’m with Andrew re Gangs Of New York. I wish someone would take as much care with producing a decent blu ray transfer of it as your Star Wars guy did in cleaning that up. The current UK blu ray transfer of Gangs is very digital and generally woeful.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Exactly. I think we talked about that aspect. It’s an interesting blend of then contemporary allegory, and historical incident. It mostly works.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Kurt, the mention of Paul Scofield reminded me to remind you to watch A Man for All Seasons.

–Your Fellow Anglophile

UltimoLee
Guest

Opening:
In-house business: 01:25
Partisan [SPOILERS] 17:55
The Watch List: 1:03:57
Next Week: 3:22:16
End: 3:31:03

devolutionary
Guest

So Andrew, you didn’t happen to catch Sienna Miller in a very understated wife role for Foxcatcher (barely recognizable), Mississippi Grind or American Sniper? Good acting or not, I like the fact she’s taking on supporting roles where she doesn’t highlight her looks.

Andrew James
Admin

I just watched Mississippi Grind yesterday as a matter of fact. We talk about chameleon actors all the time, but the actresses don’t get mentioned very often. Wow is she a completely different person in MG than in Burnt or Factory Girl. I had no idea it was her in MG until I looked it up. It’s really weird.

Also, I didn’t much care for Mississippi Grind.

filmstache
Guest

Biologists now think the Salem witch catastrophe was linked to some kind of bacterial infection. In movie news, kurt have you ever talked about The Big Sleep, I just watched it again and damn if doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies. Total Kurtnip

Kurt
Guest

I’m definitely a fan of THE BIG SLEEP (It’s the raw framework for THE BIG LEBOWSKI!), and I heart all things Bogart. I haven’t watched it in some time though.

Kurt
Guest

And the Bacteria theory never once comes up in Stacey Shiff’s book…Not sure about that one.

filmstache
Guest

This time I noticed similarities to Inherent Vice. It was pure bliss. Do we have a modern day Bogart?

Kurt
Guest

I do not believe so. They just don’t make enough movies in Hollywood that require stars of his particular idiom anymore.

Google Suggests: Kevin Spacey, Denzel Washington and Benicio Del Toro. These choices all seem way off to me….

Harrison Ford oddly enough seems the closest, perhaps because he played the Bogart role in the Sabrina remake…but I cannot mentally picture Bogart in a Star Wars in any way.

Andrew James
Admin

1990+ Tom Hanks

or select Costner/Cage roles.

Peter Sarsgaard? John Hawkes?

filmstache
Guest

I always think of Hanks as a jimmy stewart. Sarsgaard sounds pretty damn good if they gave him huge movies and starring roles. Maybe Ben Mendelsohn looks wise.

Andrew James
Admin

Good call on Ben Mendelsohn! And thanks for spelling it correctly so I didn’t have to go look it up for posting. 🙂

Nat Almirall
Guest

Bogart’s a mutt, and I think the focus today is on purebreds.

filmstache
Guest

True, definitely made it on talent.

filmstache
Guest

Sorry, it was ergot, a fungus. It’s just a theory of course. Who knows, sounds like a great book though.

antho42
Guest

Wow, Just found out that an Alejandro Amenabar satanic film was release today. But it only has a 7 percent score in Rotten Tomatoes. Oh man

Andrew James
Guest

He’s got such a great track record. Was going to watch Regression today actually. The reviews are not great, but everything else he’s done is fantastic.

Robert Reineke
Guest

While I don’t think I’ll change Andrew’s mind about Downton Abbey I can say that any fears about the infallible white patriarch trope are decidedly misplaced. Part of the show is about the unwinding of that illusion as the 20th century progresses. It’s certainly soap opera-ish though.

Episode 2 is worth a look as Dan Stevens joins the cast and presents a more progressive outlook as contrast. And it has Maggie Smith’s best line of the series.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

That lengthy piece on Star Wars Negative1 that I mentioned in the show, finally went online today.

http://moviemezzanine.com/the-fans-who-saved-star-wars/

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