Mamo 407: We’re Back, Pitches

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Mamo returns at long last! We’ve got a lot to catch up on, so we have a look at Pitch Perfect 2, Mad Max: Fury Road, and Tomorrowland. How’s the summer going so far?

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Goon
Guest

On my iTunes feed the “added” date for this episode says “Tomorrow”.

I don’t know if that was intentional, but pretend it was.

Rick
Guest

I heard the Randian bits about Tomorrowland and not having seen it I believed them because The Incredibles is absolutely full of that stuff (mostly because a bunch of the comics it is pulling from are).

Goon
Guest

“Some pieces compared the viewpoint to the objectivist philosopher Ayn Rand. I thought that was silly and the writers were humorless. I was into Rand for about six months when I was 20, but you outgrow that narrow point of view. Some compromise is necessary in life.” – Brad Bird

Bird is definitely interested in exceptional characters, but he completely lacks the fanaticism/feeling that exceptional people are owed something or inherently better people/earned everything they have. Doesn’t believe “regular” people are leaches. He is grounded in a more ‘with great power comes great responsibility’ humanism to me.

The reading of both is backwards.
In Incredibles “When everyone is super, no one is” is spoken by the villain, a MO he arrived at by being discouraged by Mr. Incredible. The same line is spoken by Dash, who has also been discouraged by Mr. Incredible at home. Mr. Incredible works alone and it nearly gets him killed. The arc of the film is the family working together and they are better using their gifts together.

Meanwhile the actual Rand character in the film is the villain, Syndrome, who has built his own desolate island and pulled himself up by his bootstraps. And he’s still a jerk.

….and in Tomorrowland, the Randian character is again, the villain, who is also living in his own constructed utopia which he won’t share because he feels we don’t deserve it. And has hypocritically bought into the same negativity and defeatism that he is damning the world for.

It’s clear to me that Bird has an interest in exceptionalism that may or may not have predated an interest in Rand. But it’s pretty clear to me that he has a more humanist and socially responsible idea of how one is to use their gifts. Rand believed that selfishness is a virtue, and that is completely absent from Brad Bird’s work.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

“I’m going to replace you, and you’re not even going to notice.” – Clearly, MAX wins this podcast.

Thomas Wishloff
Guest

Producer Max needs to be a new thing.

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