Cinecast Episode 384 – Feeling Uncomfortable is Great

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A surprising amount of agreement this week. Yes Matt Gamble is here which always brings a certain amount of animosity and incredulity to the show. Yet there seems to be an underlining and approving theme of “less than great” to the entire show. That’s about it. There are politics at play. The music industry at odds with itself. An anti-Rom-Com. Fucked up celebrities seeing ghosts. Giant stone tablets from God and Hugh Jackman drawing a firearm during league play.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

 

 

 


 

TIME TRACKS:

Chappie spoilers end @54:50
Maps to the Stars spoilers end @1:17:35
“House of Cards” spoilers end @1:44:15

 

PRE-SHOW WARMUPS:

– New High and Low Brow podcast (epsiode 47) coming soon at Where the Long Tail Ends

 

REVIEWS:

Chappie
Maps to the Stars
“House of Cards” (s3)

 

THE WATCH LIST:

MATT
The Ex
Jerry Maguire

ANDREW
Begin Again
Exodus: Gods and Kings

 

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ultimolee
Guest

Opening:
In-house business: 0:49
Chappie [SPOILERS] 06:41
Maps to the Stars [SPOILERS] 54:50
House of Cards [SPOILERS] 1:17:35
The Watch List: 1:44:15
Next Week: 2:34:24
End: 2:38:35

Rick Vance
Guest

If Blomkamp’s movies were just cheap thrills I would enjoy them much more. He clearly wants them to be both at the same time and unlike when you are mixing genres if you want something to be both high brow and low brow it doesn’t work unless you are exceptional at it. He also steals from animation much more than live action at least to me, like directly takes from it all the time, it is another of my problems because the Robots while moving well look derivative.

Hugh Jackman invented one of the most important inventions of the history of man kind and he doesn’t get that you should just leave with that helmet and sell that thing, instead of causing the death of thousands.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

Indeed, Rick. Your first paragraph was the point that ANDREW kept re-iterating to MATT over the course of the show in relation to both District9 and Elysium.

Rick Vance
Guest

Yep

I don’t think it is just the visuals either. He wants his movies to say things about the issues and tech he brings up. The thing also that really pushed District 9 over the edge is that it was part of the first year where the Academy went over 5 nominations so it is also Best Picture nominated.

So when your debut film is that people have greater expectations for what follows.

The product placement in that movie is also horrendous, a Sony film using a cluster of Playstations 4’s hooked to a Visio to map consciousness is really blatant.

filmstache
Guest

As far as the ex goes, there are two versions available in the us. One is theatrical but was only released by blockbuster and the other unrated. The unrated one supposed to be a darker comedy while the theatrical was the studio version.

Jim
Guest

As a huge Cronenberg fan, I don’t think he’s made anything worthwhile since EASTERN PROMISES, which disappoints me to say. I actively hated COSMOPOLIS until Giamatti shows up, and MAPS TO THE STARS was only worth seeing for another great Julianne Moore performance (essentially playing an older version of Lindsay Lohan). I want the Cronenberg that made SPIDER and eXistenZ back now!!

I know a critic who thinks MAPS TO THE STARS will be his #1 film of 2015, and now I refuse to trust his opinion from here on out 🙂 Good review as always, guys!

Sean Kelly
Guest

I actually consider myself a big fan of Cosmopolis. In fact, a few weeks ago I bought the film’s excellent electronic/rock score by Howard Shore and Metric.

devolutionary
Guest

It’s a pretty solid score. I have this weird love/hate relationship with Cosmopolis. Once I got over what the movie wasn’t, I started to enjoy it more. It still has this nihilistic, cold, unsettling feeling which Cronenberg has always had in his older movies, but he’s venturing more into the subconscious untwisting of the mind rather than outward physical horror. I can at least respect him for that even though I have little care for the main protagonist (a reoccurring theme for his films now). I wonder if I should finally sit down and read Don Delilo’s book?

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

Cosmopolis is indeed excellent…It really opened my eyes to Robert Pattinson as an actor to watch.

Jim
Guest

Maybe I will give COSMOPOLIS another look. I didn’t mind Patterson but I thought it was almost too dialogue-heavy and didactic. Probably would’ve made for a better play, but once Giamatti shows up, it almost became like Cronenberg’s take on a Mamet dynamic between opposing forces. I remember thinking if only the entire movie were as good as the last 15 minutes or so.

Or maybe I am just immensely turned off by prostate exams in a limo.

Sean Kelly
Guest

That final scene is indeed the highlight of the film, though there are other scenes in the film I like (the awkward eroticism of the prostate exam being one of them).

Goon
Guest

Most of the Cosmopolis dialogue is like watching the Architect from The Matrix Reloaded. But that’s what I like about it.

kurt
Guest

YES. So much this. 100% Agreed Goon.

Craig
Guest

Mark Kermode had it in his top 10 of 2014, he is a Cronenberg fanboy though.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

I’m a huge CRONENBERG fanboy myself, and this might be the first film of his that I really didn’t like all that much, and will not likely ever revisit.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Disregard the other comments; you’re quite right, Jim: Cosmopolis is still a piece of shit.

Craig
Guest

It really is bad!

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antho42
Guest

Yes, Wong Kar Wai and Lee Myung-Se for the next Where the Long Tail Ends episode. Kurt would approve of this.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Lee Myung-Se’s NOWHERE TO HIDE has perhaps the best use of a BEE GEES song in it ever. Simply marvelous.

http://www.rowthree.com/2012/02/28/finite-focus-flow-my-tears-nowhere-to-hide/

antho42
Guest

Yep, it is that film and Fallen Angels. Lee apparently tried to make a film in Hollywood, but he was too nuts. He also got fired from a spy film in Korea.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I’m a guy who likes weekly episodic television and there are multiple shows I regularly watch. That said, I can’t remember the last time I watched a show live and not off my PVR (usually late at night or in the morning).

Also, I got a Chromecast last month and my Netflix viewing has just skyrocketed. Before I would watch just a couple things a month and now I’ve watched more stuff on Netflix in the last month than I have in the whole previous YEAR (I’ve finally made it into the second season of House of Cards)! Perhaps, it’s the simplicity of being able to select what I want to watch off of the Netflix app on my phone (as opposed to the antiquated app on my nearly 5 year old blu-ray player).

This, combined with my new favourite task of watching YouTube videos on my TV, has definitely brought me one step closer to eventually chord-cutting.

I should also add that Chromecast (a Google product) is a perfect match for Google Play, which I’ve been using to rent films off VOD since last summer.

Andrew James
Guest

We talked for a bit about Carrie Fisher’s looks in this episode. I stand by everything I (probably) said. All of this bullshit about not judging someone ageing well is a separate topic. Plastic surgery is what we’re talking about here. Everyone gets old and is not as attractive as they once were (except for Helen Mirren apparently).

All of these news reports praising Fisher for her words of justice are grandstanding garbage and not what anyone is talking about. If you age so much that you can’t move your lips, that’s one thing. If you purposefully pay money to make that happen, as a celebrity, I think you’re open for some amount of criticism – as petty as it may be.

Jonathan
Guest

I see what you’re saying, Andrew, but I disagree. I think the issues are directly connected. Why do so many women in Hollywood (and elsewhere) turn to plastic surgery as a means of holding onto their young looks? Women are shamed for aging in ways that men are not.

It’s not a coincidence that so many leading ladies are ridiculously younger than their male counterparts (see this well-known Vulture article that examines the love interests of Denzel Washington, Harrison Ford, Johnny Depp, Tom Cruise, George Clooney): http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/leading-men-age-but-their-love-interests-dont.html

Yes, there are exceptions such as Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Kathy Bates, etc., but again… they’re the exceptions.

It’s these pressures that lead women to turn to such drastic measures to retain their youthful looks.

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