Cinecast Episode 383 – Dogpocalypse


Ever walk into a typical coffee shop, order a basic cup of joe and think to yourself, “well this is a much nicer brew of java than I would have expected!”? This is how we bookend this weeks review on the show. While we rarely dive into “the news” on The Cinecast, the passing of Leonard Nimoy, the magnificent Mr. Spock himself, is an important issue that both Andrew and Kurt feel needs addressing; as does Harrison Ford in another Blade Runner movie. Meanwhile, canines take over the city in White Dog God, which the boys discuss despite Andrew’s screener conking out at the halfway mark (Kurt managed to get it all in however).

In The Watch List, Andrew tackles two more films on the IMDb 250 Project after defending the choice of using such a list for viewing fodder, while Kurt caught up with a Wong Kar-Wai influenced piece of joy in Millenium Mambo as well. Kurt also gives a brief sneak review of Jay Cheel’s ( How to Build a Time Machine based on the current work-print (fair warning). Lastly, Liam Neeson goes smokes on airplanes and Anne Hathaway is cute then sexy. All in an evening’s work here in the third row.

Please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below, and again, thanks for listening!






Focus spoiler ends @53:12
See comments for more time track listings – thanks to Ultimolee for the extra elbow grease!



– Spock news
Blade Runner sequel news



White God
Blade Runner (The Final Cut)



Millenium Mambo
How to Build a Time Machine

The Gold Rush (IMDb 250 Project)
La Strada (IMDb 250 Project)
The Devil Wears Prada



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Arnold Schizopolis

I actually re-watched Blade Runner this week both the Final Cut and the U.S. Theatrical Cut. I much prefer Deckard as a human for the same reasons Kurt expressed. The themes and the Roy vs. Deckard ending resonate more, if he’s human. Deckard as a replicant in the Director’s Cut & Final Cut may work and be plausible. Deckard would be a “special” replicant like Rachel and “not know what it is”. Only the Voight-Kampff test would expose them and Deckard suggested he never took it. But, Deckard as a replicant makes the themes and that world more cynical and bleak than it already is. The slavery metaphor Kurt talked about is spot on and supports this. By making Deckard a replicant, he becomes a brainwashed slave similar to Sam Jackson in Django Unchained. And Rachel would be like a brainwashed sex slave living in luxury and vanity. They’re tragic figures and the story indicts humanity even more. The only positive thing by the end is that they both become self-aware and escape together.

I’ve now concluded that both the Final Cut & U.S. Theatrical are equality great. But the fact there are two equal versions (7 official versions actually) really hurts the legacy of the film (and they’re still both very slow). So I had to drop my star rating to 4.5/5.

Robert Reineke

In some ways, the multiple cuts of Blade Runner make it more like a Philip K. Dick story where “what is reality” isn’t always clear. In some realities Deckard may be a replicant, in others he’s definitely not.


It’s funny that many of the P.K. Dick film adaptations have that quality…I secretly believe that THE ADJUSTMENT BUREAU has one of the saddest, most cynical endings, perfectly disguised as a happy one.


I too prefer the original theatrical version since it was what I first saw as a 15 year old in 1982 and loved Loved LOVED it straight out the gate!
Despite all the assertions and pointers to underpin the effect of reading Deckard as a replicant, I still disregard them and prefer to view him as a human out of touch with the humanity his quarry is desperately trying to embrace in themselves. Compartmentalisation of a sort on my part.
Having said that, I think the Deckard=Replicant cues are more than just subtle proddings; how do you explain Deckard knowing the exact details of Rachel’s implanted spider-mommy memory? Did Deckard the rusty, albeit human, cop review ALL of Tyrell’s niece’s co-opted memories in the day or so after he took on the case such that he could just cite any of them on demand when he needed to prove the truth to Rachel? It more plausible that Deckard the replicant, newly re-purposed to solve the case and freshly-inserted into the LAPD, was front-loaded with all data material to the case, including a shit-tonne of Rachel’s programming.
Not so subtle when you read it that way I think.

But still human (to me)!!!!



In-house business: 00:10
Focus [SPOILERS] 18:26
White God: 53:12
Blade Runner Chat: 1:13:22
The Watch List: 1:54:20
Next Week: 2:59:23
End: 3:06:10

No idea if there’s any spoilers for White God, i skipped over it as i’m waiting to see it.


I’d say there are some SPOILERS in the WHITE GOD section, wise choice.

Sean Kelly

If you were shocked to find out Leonard Nimoy was 83, you will probably be equally shocked that William Shatner is ALSO 83 (and four days OLDER than Nimoy).


3 times is his masterpiece. Same actress.


officially jealous Kurt got to the Time Machine workprint first!


Wait just a second here.. The actor playing Holden in Blade Runner is Morgan Paul. The reason he got the role was because he looked a bit like Ford and they brought him in to screen test girls auditioning for Rachel and Pris, then they wrote him in to the film. That’s what they say in Dangerous Days anyway.

Jealous of Kurt btw, I want to see How To Build A Time Machine so bad

Kurt Halfyard

Yea, my bad on that one. That has confused me for years, and I was convinced that it was J.T. Walsh….Andrew’s surprise reaction when I mentioned it says it all.

(And He does look a lot like Harrison Ford in the movie.


Maybe he’s already seen it, but if not Andrew should checkout My Summer Of Love if he wants a fix of early Emily Blunt. Directed by the guy who made Ida as well.

Andrew James

Gracias. Will check it out. IDA was excellent cinema in 2014.

Rick Vance

You guys are all insane, this whole comments section is insane. From the title of the Short Story through a bunch of stuff in the movie it isn’t just clear it is SUPER EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR what is the case in the movie. It makes sense practically, pragmatically and from the point of the world and genre we are immersed in.

That all being said I don’t watch Blade Runner for the plot any more, that movie is perfect to me it is a movie after having seen so many things about what I enjoy on a taste level just clicked, the visuals the audio, the music, the performances beyond plot (which there is also nothing wrong with) the movie is the most cohesive perfect piece of design next to Alien to ever be released.

It is funny that it all comes back to Jordorosky and Dune because all the neo-noir all the cyber punk dystopias in film and fiction following that project are influenced by a 16 page comic that Jean Giraud (Moebius) and Dan O’Bannon did after meeting on that failed project.

The whole comic is here if you want to read it:

(See if you can spot the thing that Lucas steals from it)

Matt Gamble

You might as well be talking to a wall, Rick.