Cinecast Episode 372 – The Montage is not Dead

We’re not always sure exactly what’s happening, but Kurt is pretty sure what’s not happening; at least in the case of The Babadook. Before we get there though, we fawn over Dan Gilroy’s directorial debut, Nightcrawler, as well as the performances within – which might include Jake Gyllenhaal’s finest. From there we travel 30 years in the past to 1984 and then wish we hadn’t pressed “go” on this particular time machine. For the Watch List, it’s Laika’s meticulous artistry of stop-motion animation, Jennifer Lawrence shooting arrows and brooding (again), Marilyn Monroe is politically incorrect, Aaron Sorkin is exhausting and the killing of Jim Henson creations with martial arts. A tangent here and there rounds out another fine, wine and dine episode of the Cinecast.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


 
 

 
 


~ TECHNICAL NOTES ~

show content

 
 


SPOILER TIMES:
Nightcrawler spoiler ends @40:50
The Babadook spoiler ends @1:00:45
See comments for more time track listings – thanks to listener Ultimolee for the extra elbow grease!

 
 


~ IN-HOUSE BUSINESS ~

Interstellar Super Ticket
– Andrew on “Soundtrack of Your Life” podcast
– Show notes, time tracks and site design tweaks

 
 


~ MAIN REVIEW(S) ~

 
 


~ 1984 PROJECT ~

 
 


~ THE WATCH LIST ~

Andrew
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
Brotherhood of the Wolf
– “The West Wing”

Kurt
The Boxtrolls

 
 


~ NEXT EPISODE POTENTIAL REVIEW(S) ~


– Big Hero 6
– The Theory of Everything
– Foxcatcher
– Dumb and Dumber To

 

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ultimolee
Guest

Opening
In-house business: 1:05
Nightcrawler [SPOILERS] 7:02
The Babadook [SPOILERS] 40:50
1984 Project: C.H.U.D – 1:00:45
Watch List: 1:15:40
Next Week: 1:56:35
End: 2:14:37

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Mums are always trouble 😀

Linda
Guest

Very well covered very interesting

Linda
Guest

Very well done

Linda
Guest

A great episode by both of you

La Menthe
Guest

You should be proud of them. Many of us can hardly go an entire week without listening to their awesome conversations!

Linda
Guest

Great job

Linda
Guest

Awesome

Linda
Guest

Very well said

kurt
Guest

ladies and gentlemen, that ‘serial commenter’ above is my Mom.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Time for my usual bunched comments:
1) As someone with an Autism Spectrum Disorder, I’m a bit concerned that Kurt was so quick to use it to describe characters so many times within this episode, whether or not they were valid observations. Particularly NIGHTCRAWLER, since Kurt unknowingly insinuated that Autism Spectrum Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder are the same thing.

2) On the same vein, I really want Kurt to stop generalizing what people with ADHD (which I also have) will or will not enjoy. I groan every time Kurt says it.

4) On a more positive note, Kurt makes some good points about THE BABADOOK, which I’ll keep in mind when I rewatch the film (which I undoubtedly will).

5) Back to grumbling, Kurt should have just said “I’m not interested” in reference to BIG HERO SIX and be done with it. Passing venomous judgement on a film that you have not seen (particularly an animated film), just makes you seem like a heartless person.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I wonder what disorder caused me to accidentally skip the number 3….

Andrew James
Admin

In regards to #5 (which is actually 4 :), yes, this is the inner Matt Gamble coming out of Kurt. Some of the recent output by Disney animation has been pretty decent. From shorts like Paperman to Wreck-It Ralph to Winnie the Pooh to Tangled. Far better than recent Pixar animation. I seem to remember Kurt enjoying Wreck-It pretty thoroughly.

Sure, Dreamworks, Universal and Sony have been putting out better stuff (e.g. Train You Dragon, Cloudy Meatballs, Monster House, Despicable Me, etc.), but those movies are one-offs and scatter-shot over the years. Disney keeps putting out solid animated movies. I didn’t see Frozen (yet), but by all accounts it’s great.

As for Big Hero 6, it simply looks cute, funny and an enjoyable 90 minutes at the movies. Certainly better than fare like The Croods and probably not as knee-jerk preachy as something like Iron Giant.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Just don’t tell Kurt that BIG HERO 6 is based on one of the lesser known Marvel properties. That would REALLY get his blood boiling. 😉

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Hero_6

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

The recent stuff from Disney has been DECENT, but that is the same way of saying middle-of-the-road or slightly better. This is not a good thing in my book. I demand masterpieces. And Big Hero 6 looks like IRON GIANT with the emotional edges worn down and contrived. It gets my back up. The Iron Giant is one of the great modern animated movies.

Andrew James
Admin

I would agree that BH6 does sort of look like Iron Giant without the emotion. Rather, it’s Iron Giant as a comedy. Nothing with wrong that. The comedy might not be your cup of tea, which is fair enough. But to say it’s shit without having seen it and just because you happen to not enjoy animated comedies is not really fair.

Isn’t Rango essentially Chinatown without the social weight of the characters? It’s Chinatown with the insertion of boring and derivative action sequences and characters that are totally watered down. Yet you love it. What I’m saying is, your argument that BH6 is “bad” because it’s a different version of something else is withholding water from the rest of us who think it looks cute and funny.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Chinatown is only one part of the cornucopia of cinema-love on display in Rango, a film that is amazing, weird, and even on occasion daring. Not to mention that it’s visuals and aesthetic is pretty unique looking.

BH6, on the other hand looks like easy pandering cuddly stuff, and is boringly and generically animated to boot…At least they didn’t use “KUNG FU FIGHTING” in the marketing campaign.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Sean, let me try to lower your sensitivity by clarifying:

I’m saying the AUTISTIC SPECTRUM is very wide, and it is being interestingly addressed in movies with good characters (Imitation Game) Bad ones (Nightcrawler) -both with agency – and victims as well will less agency (the kid in Babadook). I’m not using it as a pejorative, but as a neutral adjective.

My use of ADHD is the same as calling something Gay, insofar as Gay doesn’t mean homosexual anymore, it also means something else (See the trailer for LOVE IS STRANGE to get my drift). I don’t mean it literally or clinically, I mean it as a pervasive state of mind in the collective modern culture of moviegoing.

While I don’t intend to start putting TRIGGER WARNINGS in the posts or podcasts of this site, please note that nothing is said with malice towards anyone who has Autism/ADHD or other special conditions…

Cheers.

FTTD
Guest

Can’t wait for the Super Ticket! I think all of Nolan’s short comings have finally caught up with him in Interstellar. Can’t wait for you guys to tear into it.

Sean Kelly
Guest

While the people who have disliked INTERSTELLAR have been pretty vocal about it (which I’m sure will be heard on the Super Ticket), the response of the film has been mostly positive.

Of the people I follow on Letterboxd, only about 2-3 so far had negative things to say about the film.

Andrew James
Admin

Yeah, I feel like there’s a bit of a pre-emptive backlash against the film. Sure it has a few, minor problems, but man is it thought provoking, fun to watch and even more fun to simply experience.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I liked the film a lot, particularly for a lot of the ideas that it chooses to chews on, rather than the often ridiculous way it actually chews on them…There is more than one “Armaggeddon-ism” in there that rubbed me the wrong way, but I liked it a bunch. I feel the same way about INCEPTION actually.

Sean Kelly
Guest

It turns out that they are indeed planning to release the pop-up book from THE BABADOOK. You can place an order on the official website (http://thebabadook.com/) and the books will ship in mid-2015 if a minimum of 2000 orders are made (it’s already more than a quarter there).

The price of the book is a little steep ($60 US + $20 shipping), but it would make a fine collector’s item.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

This would be a great idea for a super-special edition of the BLU RAY release of the film!

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