Mamo #366: The Godfather, Part IV: Don of the Planet of the Apes

Mamo!
[dropcap style=”font-size: 60px; color: #a9a883;”] W [/dropcap]hat’s up, Mamo listeners? This week we talk Apes, Marvel, Thor, Avengers, home video, money, and Hellboy 3. So, basically, what we always talk about.

Sort by:   newest | oldest | most voted
Rick Vance
Guest

So lot of stuff to talk about here so I will keep everything brief.

-It is written into the Thor press release that it is a temporary change

-The proof that the comics sales are not something that are blowing up the charts is that this is Thor and Cap and not two brand new characters.

-The reason I got out of Marvel and DC comics is that those comics seem the province of caring more about the fictional characters than the real people involved and while the characters are changing the creators are not matching even that diversity at even half the rate. (which is kinda scary considering the character thing)

-Doing all Three,(they also changed Iron Man but it wasn’t as big) in the same week reeks of desperation to move the needle as much as they can.

-The fact that this stuff wasn’t announced at the biggest Comic News show every year that is a week removed from the announcements also makes me question them.

-The Avengers 2 new makes me question Ant Man as a project even more because honestly if you remove Ultron from Hank Pym he has very little left as a character.

There is probably more but I can’t seem to think of it at present, outside of my general pet peeve when people outside of being deep in comics talk about titles from only the perspective of the writer on the book, which is a thing Marvel and DC have done a fantastic job or marketing and promoting on books ever since Proto-Vertigo so I don’t blame people who walk into a book store and see the writers name in a font that is three times bigger than all the artists on the book and associate it with that forever.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

This Marvel news is coming out now, because it leads up into San Diego Comic Con where they have panels that they can talk about this. As for why Marvel didn’t wait until SDCC for these big announcements, is because there are so many big comic and pop culture announcements during SDCC that it’s hard for anything to get heard. Announcing these things ahead of time means that it is *the* comic book news, especially doing it via the View and the Colbert Report. It’s been an evolution of SDCC news that announcements happen with more and more lead time to stand out. It used to be a number of years ago, that some savvy companies would do announcements a few days ahead of time, now it’s a couple of weeks.

Andrew James
Admin

While I don’t necessarily agree that the Burton “Apes” is a good movie (I should rewatch actually), I do TOTALLY agree that the actual apes in Burton’s version (particularly Tim Roth) are FAR more interesting and fun than the Andy Serkis apes.

The Maurice character vs. the Paul Giamatti version of the same guy? Not even close. So go figure, in my mind, practical wins out over CGI and mo-cap.

Robert Reineke
Guest

Sales are at the point where Harley Quinn outsells any two of the movie Avengers.

I’m not as impressed by Mamo at the newest shakeups to Captain America / Thor as I believe we’ve been through this dog and pony show before and while it’s progress, there’s also the regressive element of the story that says “sure, you can be Captain America / Thor for a while, but it’s only temporary until you turn it back to the one, true white guy.” It’s doubly problematic in the case of The Falcon if it’s viewed as some sort of promotion. As if there’s something wrong with being the one, true Falcon with his own legacy. There’s baggage that goes with assuming another character’s mantle, even if there are also probably good stories to be told.

Of course, I’d expect Marvel and DC wouldn’t have to resort to these old tropes if readers were just willing to give new characters a chance. It’s hard to diversify when readers would rather buy 5 Batman comics than take a chance on 1 new character. Then again, when you’re asked to preorder months in advance and the price point for comic books is frankly absurd, is it really surprising that readers are conservative?

Robert Reineke
Guest

FYI, you can find comic book sales at http://www.comichron.com

Matthew Fabb
Guest

Wow… I had heard a bit about the new Harley Quinn series but I had no idea it was such a big seller (#4 of the top 10 in June).

Courtney Small
Guest

Off the top of my head, here are two ideas for possible “Mamo’s Ridiculous Swag” that you could make. Not sure if these have already been suggested elsewhere…

Mamo Ridiculous Swag idea #1: Custom Dinner Plates.

1) No other podcast is selling dinner plates. At least not that I have come across.
2) The first thing that attracted me to MAMO was the fact that you guys embraced the natural sounds of various eateries.
3) Food is a key part of the Mamo road trip episodes.
4) I know that sites like Shutterfly (http://www.shutterfly.com/photo-gifts/plates) offer this service.

Mamo Ridiculous Swag idea #2: Custom iPhone Case/iPhone Back Labels.

1) It might be easier to make than dinner plates from a cost perspective. Though I have not done any research on either.
2) Not really ridiculous per say but fitting considering how many episodes where recorded on an iPhone device.
3) You could sell two or three different designs at the same time. Different images to mark the various stages of the show.

Goon
Guest

Swag:

The Mamo Muumuu

Markus Krenn
Guest

Mamo Shaving Creme

Markus Krenn
Guest

I ment Shaving Foam

Rick
Guest

The Swag should be a drink glass with a plastic insert designed to hold an IPhone

Goon
Guest

A photo of Brown and Price at a coffee shop hastily glued to a broken iPhone.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

A while back I brought up Oculus Rift wondering if there were any opinions on it, although it is a bit new. I can’t find the MAMO thread that I mentioned it, so I’ll just add my comment here.

Since it’s been officially announced, I can mention the Oculus Rift experience that I had worked on is for the new FOX tv show Sleepy Hollow. It’s being launched later this week at San Diego Comic Con. Only one season of the show has aired so far, with the second season starting this fall. It’s a pretty cool show, with a bit of a Buffy feel to it, in that there is the various monster of the week that leads up to season long big bad.

I can’t talk too much about the Oculus Rift experience beyond what FOX has mentioned in their press release, but it’s different from the Games of Thrones experience, in that one of the main actors from the tv show, Tom Mison who plays Ichabod Crane appears in it.

Also while I’ve only had a chance to work with a small bit of the development, what is cool for me is that the Oculus experience is based off of the story that I pitched.

Anyways, it’s been a lot of fun working on this project and one of the main reasons why I’m so interested in how VR will end up promoting and in some ways competing with both movies and tv shows.

Sean Kelly
Guest

SLEEPY HOLLOW the new show from last year I latched onto the most, so this is quite interesting news.

Of course, I doubt Kurt would like the show, given that Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are the creators and producers of the show (and write many of the episodes).

Matthew Fabb
Guest

Yeah, Sleepy Hollow proved to be quite the fun series. It does a great job of balancing humor and goofiness with horror, something that I think it really hard to balance.

Meanwhile, turns out Sleepy Hollow isn’t the only one with an Oculus Rift experience at San Diego Comic Con. Beyond HBO bringing their Game of Thrones experience, 20th Century Fox is debuting an X-men Oculus Rift game. Here’s an article from the Associated Press about it, which also briefly mentions the Sleepy Hollow one. At the top of the article there is a slideshow of screenshots from their game and the graphics look really low quality. I guess they didn’t have the time or the budget or have access to any of the movie’s CGI models? It can be expensive to build what only a small number of people at the event will see it, since only developers have the Oculus Rift hardware.

Anyways, after San Diego Comic Con is done I should allowed to talk more what is in the Sleepy Hollow Oculus Rift experience.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

So there are 2 more Oculus Rift experiences at San Diego Comic Con this year, for a total of 5 of them that I know of so far.

Legendary has a Oculus Rift experience that has you piloting a Jaeger. However, I have to wonder why they are promoting Pacific Rim. The blu-ray came out ages ago, the sequel seems very far off.

Meanwhile Warner Brothers has an Oculus Rift experience to promote Into the Storm, which puts you in the middle of a tornado.

All of this when the hardware is only available for developers and only a small number of people can experience at installations. I do think this area will take off even more once consumer models are available.

Like video games, some will just be to licensed out or to promote the brand. However, I think it’s possible that directors and writers will be more involved with VR and make short VR films or experiences that extend what they are doing with their movies.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

Sean and anyone else interest, here’s a small of promo video giving a quick look at the experience and how it was filmed. So far people’s reactions to it have been incredibly positive. I don’t know if they will bring this to Toronto’s Fan Expo, or if there will be a set up anywhere else in Toronto for anyone to see it. However, it’s the first major Oculus Rift experience created by my work (called the Secret Location), so they definitely would like to show it off here in Toronto if possible.

wpDiscuz