Mamo #356: The Sound and the Fury

Recorded live on the loud streets of Toronto, Team Mamo discusses Neighbours, which is about neighbours who are loud.

(This podcast was recorded on May 12 – apologies for the delay posting!)

To download this episode, use this URL: http://rowthree.com/audio/mamo/mamo356.mp3

27 comments

  1. I’m not sure which is worse, being stuck in a dead theater for comedy where you’re enjoying things, or being stuck in a raucus one where you’re not enjoying things. It can become a distraction from the film, starting to think about the audience and why you don’t fit in. I walked out of Horrible Bosses a few years ago with the latter happening.

    I liked Neighbors well enough. My theater was actually as much into it as I’ve seen from a comedy in a long time.

  2. Kurt Halfyard

    On The ubiquity of the Modern Beep — http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27308544

  3. Kurt Halfyard

    OH, and yes. JOSEPH LOSEY is indeed awesome. The Servant is one of my all time favourites, if I didn’t have the boy with me (or a wife to feed at home, on Mother’s Day) I would have totally stayed for that in Cinema 3.

    • matthew price

      His M really isn’t bad either – the giant store looks like it’s right out of Blade Runner.

  4. “Fantasy land where comedy happens” is actually a pretty accurate description of NEIGHBORS as a whole, which I saw all the way though.

    I laughed at many of the jokes, but the over-the-top nature of the plot was bugging me (which is a sure sign that at 32, I’m starting to get too old for these types of films).

    • I’m sure every movie buff that lives in Toronto has heard about this by now (and I’ve already seen some Facebook comments).

      While the kneejerk reaction is obviously “this is awful,” I’m going to just shrug my shoulders. I don’t even sit in the middle two rows.

    • Odeon cinemas in the UK have done that for years. The seats have a slightly different shape and fabric too, claiming to be comfier. It’s pretty ridiculous, but doesn’t bother me too much because I prefer to sit a little closer to the screen anyway.

    • My first thought on seeing this was “no!” But live performance venues, especially for plays, have pretty much always had tiered pricing based on how good the seats are. As moviegoing becomes more of a boutique experience, I’m not surprised that movie theatres want to test that out.

      • Only for concerts and plays, with a few exceptions, it’s always better to be closer to the stage. It’s harder to qualify which seats are better for a movie.

        At first I thought it was going to be the center seats. So the column down the middle. As while everyone has a different preference whether they would like to be closer or further away, no matter what row you pick, everyone tends to want to be in the center seats of that row.

    • It would make more sense to charge $2 LESS for the shitty seats way in the back; and $5 LESS for the shitty seats right up in front.

      “Choice.” That’s the last thing people need more of these days. ┬ęThe Hurt Locker

      • There is a pricing floor for films. Anything under the floor the theatre would have to cover out of pocket.

        Eventually theatre auditoriums will be priced like stadiums, different areas will have different pricing with the “best” seats being the most expensive.

    • Cineplex’s move fascinated me, but nearly so much as the outcry from the fan community upon publication of the news. But then, I think the entire exhibition industry is crawling along on a vastly outdated business model and changes like this are years (or decades) overdue. It’s working in other regions and in other art forms. Why not?

      • While I like the free publicity I get from Huffington Post for the blog posts I occasional submit to them, I have been getting some very angry secondhand tweets (in reply to their link of my post on the subject).

        Here’s the link (which is a repost from my blog): http://huff.to/1gOOMEP

      • As mentioned above, most other venues, you always want to be closer, but not in a movie theatre.

        Also I’ve seen a lot bigger reaction from people on Facebook who don’t go to the movie threatre often, just a handful times a year. Mainly that this gives them one more reason not to go to the threatre. I saw a lot of people use the “this is why people download illegal movies”. That the movie going theatre experience is already annoying (cell phones, people talking) and too expensive for them. A lot of people seemed to miss out that this is a pilot effort and not yet in all theatres yet. Still there’s a lot of unhappy people who seem to feel that this is another step telling them not to bother going to the theatre. The two centre rows aren’t that big of a deal, but the reaction from people was still over the top.

        • It kind of depends what your priorities are. If it is the best sound you always want to be where the mix was done, which is why bootleggers hang out by the board at concerts.

          Movie theatres are one of the few venues where the optimum position for visuals and sound is roughly in the same place for the majority of people, which is roughly two thirds of the way back in the auditorium.

        • I always prefer sitting a few rows from the front and I cannot conceive why people would prefer sitting further back (since the perspective would make the screen seem no larger than a widescreen TV).

          • Kurt Halfyard

            Agreed, Sean. This is also why I loathe the downtown VARSITY VIP screens, they are glorified TV rooms.

          • If the way a film is shot is disorienting (crazy on shakey cam, canted angles, or the kind of editing in Strange Color….) I would prefer to be sitting further back rather than be bombarded.

          • A few rows from the front? Like the very front front? We would not be sitting together and most venues. I hate looking way up and having to turn my head to see both sides of the screen. I also hate the very back like Matt Gamble enjoys.

            Here is where I chose to sit for Godzilla tomorrow (in green). I get those bars to put my feet on. Screen takes up almost my whole field of vision, I don’t have to strain my head up or left/right. And ATMOS kicks all sorts of ass:

          • Also yes. As of now Emma and I are the only ones seeing that movie at that time.

          • No, not the very front (which I’ve always dubbed “The Pit”). The seats you chose for Godzilla are more akin to where I would usually sit in multiplexes.

            Then there’s the Bell Lightbox, which is built in such a way that there’s NO bad seats (i.e. the front row is still far enough from the screen for an unobstructed view). Of course, I still sit a couple rows back.

          • I tend to default to the back row when I first go to a screen, but I generally tweak that over time and can end up sitting all over the place in an auditorium.

          • Kurt Halfyard

            Perhaps disturbingly, I can tell you the exact seat I generally sit in, in nearly every movie-going venue in the Greater Toronto Area. (And yes, it does quite vary with auditorium design.)

            But with most Cineplex standardized-multiplex screens it is one row behind the seats that Andrew has indicated above (i.e. “G13″)

  5. @Matt Brown Please skip F&F 4 and dive right into Fast Five and Six. Then you’ll see arguably the best director or action sequences quality G today.

    • Oh, I disagree completely. I find FASTS 4-6, while competent, wholly forgettable. I genuinely liked FASTS 2 and 3. I know that makes me an outlier, I don’t give a fuck. See tomorrow’s blog post. ;)

  6. PS Fast and Furious 2 (ie the one you liked) is more or less a “Smokey and the Bandit” remake.
    :)

    LOVE that franchise!

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