Cinecast Episode 347 – Two Princes

Part II is here. We talked Vol I of Lars Von Trier’s Nymphomaniac last week, we finish that conversation this week in all its glorious whippiness and lack of Udo Kier. Then 1984 is continued with Prince and The Revolution, not Lake Minnetonka, Clarence Williams III, First Avenue and laughing in the Purple Rain. But we’re still on a weekend hangover from the Frabramble wedding party so we keep it short with no Watch List. But next week will get crazy with Game of Thrones starting up and also Andrew hitting M-SPIFF.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

 


 

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Full show notes are under the seats…

 


 

~ IN-HOUSE BUSINESS ~

– No, RowThree is not closing.
– Mamo! box office contest
– Game of Thrones starts this week!
– No more Blu-ray for Andrew.
– Kurt’s son talks Alien.

OPENING QUOTE:
Julianne Moore
in
The Big Lebowski

CLOSING BUMPER MUSIC:
“Makin’ Whoopee”
by
Eddie Cantor, Nat Shilkret


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~ MAIN REVIEW(S) ~

 


 

~ 1984 PROJECT ~

 


 

~ NEXT WEEK’S POTENTIAL REVIEW(S) ~


– Captain America: The Winter Soldier
– Jodorowsky’s Dune
– Red Dawn
(1984)
– Game of Thrones (s4e1)

 


 

~ COMMENTS or QUESTIONS? ~

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kurt@rowthree.com

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Sean Kelly
Guest

I think I said this once before but, other than a recent decision to redeem as many digital copy codes that I could, I will still continue to buy physical media as long as they still sell it.

In my opinion there are WAY too many issues with watching movies digitally (i.e. hard drive crashes, unstable internet connection, etc) for me to even CONSIDER making it my primary method of watching films.

Plus, even though Kurt said he’s against such mentality, I consider myself a collector and I like having a lot of movies on my shelf.

Andrew James
Admin

So far no issues with any digital streaming. I can keep anything I own through Google Play in the cloud or on my local hard drive. Or both. I would be able to watch an HD movie even during a power outage. No problems with internet as even if my internet goes down, I can tether my mobile phone to my laptop and still stream with 4G.

And whatever. If one day I can’t watch Terminator 2, oh well, I’ll do something else. Like build an igloo.

Sean Kelly
Guest

It’s still not my thing. Call me old fashioned, but there is a certain charm of having something you can touch and hold. To me, my DVD and blu-ray collection is much more than (like Kurt says) “merely a way to watch the movies.”

I don’t want to passively have “my whole collection in my pocket.” My collection has become a visual history of my evolution of a cinephile and I would prefer to have these films proudly displayed, instead of having bits on a computer, which (to me) mean practically nothing.

Sam
Guest

I gotta agree with Sean here. I guess I would consider myself a “collector” (roughly around 4,000 films) as well though everything I buy I intend to watch or re-watch at some point, but I can’t bring myself to pay for a movie and simply own it in digital format.

Might seem cheap and materialistic but if I’m paying for a movie, outside of the fact that I believe the BD does look better than streaming, I still like to physically own something. If not, I could just as easily download something through not as legal means in just as good quality if that were the case.

Matt Gamble
Guest

I “own” thousands of movies but I’m pretty damn sick of moving them and finding space to display them. Going digital is so much fucking easier, especially with how good VOD has gotten in the past year. There are just a ton of movies I can only watch and/or “own” digitally it makes it a no brainer.

I still buy the occassional disc if I can find a crazy deal, but for the most part I’m done with physical media.

Sean Kelly
Guest

That’s another thing: My collection is only at a few hundred, since I tend to be picky about what films I choose to buy (these days I only really make one purchase a month).

Sean Kelly
Guest

In fact, my biggest DVD/Blu-Ray acquisitions always come around Christmas and my birthday (the latter of which is next week).

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Andrew made a mighty good point on the show in that VOD has no front loaded studio crap at the beginning. When you hit play, the film just starts…no anti piracy, no trailers, nothing to skip. BLU is terrible for this kind of bite-sized time hijacking. Criterion and the other botique (expensive) labels are an exception, but the studios, in particular Disney/Miramax/Dimension, are the WORST>

Andrew James
Admin

Yeah, I admit to being an impatient man when it comes to this. Some DVD/Blus even force you to watch this crap (i.e. you can’t skip it). It’s so frustrating. I LOVE that I hit play and within about 2 seconds, I see the studio logo and the film’s score already kicking in.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Though reorganizing books and movies are the only things I enjoy about moving, I’m starting to fall on the side of digital. And I definitely agree with the front-loaded crap. I recently rewatched Tinker, Tailor, and the goddamn BLU-Ray spent five minutes downloading “relevant” previews, which are a pain in the ass enough to skip — and it does it every. Damn. Time.

Andrew James
Admin

Another issue you can put to bed, is this notion of poor quality.

1) Streaming quality these days is stellar. I notice no difference between Blu-ray and Netflix or HBOGO or Google Play or Amazon Instant anymore. It’s crystal clear and gorgeous. And just wait until Google Fiber gets here. Netflix is already streaming stuff in 4k!

2) If it is a concern to you, at least with Google Play, you can “pin” the movie to your device. That is, you physically download the movie to your device in the highest quality that exists. Now it’s there and “streaming” is not an issue. I have no idea how long the download takes as I’ve not done it. But I assume it isn’t much more than 10-15 minutes if you have a halfway decent internet connection.

Sean Kelly
Guest

And unless you have a very good internet plan, all that quality is going to cost you in bandwidth.

Andrew James
Admin

Yeah I guess that’s a Canadian thing. We don’t pay bandwidth cost in the states.

Andrew James
Admin

Also, just picked up Soderbergh’s “Solaris” in HD. I win.

Kurt
Guest

I just watched the HD version of that the other day. MAGNIFICENT.

Jericho Slim
Guest

I have to disagree on there being no difference between streaming and blu-ray. Blu-ray is noticeably better than streaming and cable. That being said, you can only notice it on large screens, and streaming quality is more than adequate.

Jericho Slim
Guest

I’m in San Antonio – which will be on the next phase of Google fiber rollouts, so hopefully streaming will be even better in a few years. Can’t wait to get rid of Time Warner!!

Andrew James
Admin

Napolean Dynamite

Matt Gamble
Guest

Minneapolis already has Google Fiber.

Andrew James
Admin

No we don’t. Only three (maybe four?) cities have Google Fiber.

I think there is a fiber-optic service in Minneapolis, but I don’t know much about it and I would guess it’s way more expensive than Google’s price structure. Just a guess though.

Matt Gamble
Guest

You’re right, the fiber is through USI, not Google. Our friends have it and it was significantly cheaper than cable. I think they pay $50/mo for it. They don’t have the crazy version though, that one was something like $125/mo.

Andrew James
Admin

As of now, I have no need for the crazy version. But someday (like in a couple of years when I get a 4K TV or gaming gets crazy insane with its engines and needs) I’ll want it.

According to the Google site, they’re actually giving away free internet in the three select cities (KC, Austin, Provo). A $300 setup fee and then you have free internet “forever” that runs at current high speed data rates.

Or for free setup and $70/month you get 1 Gigabit speeds and 1TB of Drive storage. For $120 they throw in the TV channels (presumably some in 4K). I want this yesterday in Minneapolis – or NYC where I plan to move to in a few years. 🙂

SOURCE: https://fiber.google.com/cities/

Andrew James
Admin

I don’t know. I have both and I don’t see much of a difference. Maybe if they were side by side I could tell better. But all of the newer movies I’ve streamed have looked pristine.

Matt Gamble
Guest

HD movies typically default at 720p in the US if your connection supports it, but I’ve been seeing more and more 1080p versions being made available. If the picture looks bad then it’s probably because your connection is faulty.

Sean Kelly
Guest

FYI Kurt, maybe it took you 4 1/2 hours to watch both parts of NYMPHOMANIAC (with trailers and intermission), however the combined time of both films is ACTUALLY 4h1m (vol 1 being 1h58m and vol 2 being 2h3m)

Kurt
Guest

It’s a guess, I was in no way implying temporal accuracy.

Kurt
Guest

A million apologies for failing to mention James Gilham in the opening of the cinecast, who is AWESOME and was great to hang out with at the Gamble Wedding.

ultimolee
Guest

Opening:
In-house business/Done with Physical media: 00:36
Nymphomaniac: Vol. 2 [SPOILERS] : 24:11
The 1984 Project: Purple Rain: 57:33
Next Week: 1:16:24
Outro music: 1:24:02

Andrew James
Admin

Pasted into the show notes. Thank you again sir!

Andrew James
Admin

Just put up about 15 Blu-rays on eBay. When I’m ready to watch, they’ll all be on Google Play and I can re-purchase them and watch them anytime, anywhere. It feels good to get some extra shelf space.

Andrew James
Admin

One thing I do see a problem with. Lending out my movies. I suppose I could create a second Google account that is only for my movies. And then if a friend wants to watch I can give out the user/password.

I’ll have to smoke and think on this.

Jericho Slim
Guest

Question: Is Nymphomaniac worth a 75 minute drive to see on the big screen? Or can I watch it on demand at home?

Kurt
Guest

I’d advocate for the committed big-screen treatment, afterall the 75 minute drive is offset by a 4+hour film. But the film will play fine on the small screen too. I saw part I both ways, I dug the audience I was with at the theatrical venue, and that they certainly got LvT’s sense of humour.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Watched Purple Rain last night at the Bloor Cinema (which was the first narrative film to be part of their “This Film Must Be Played Loud” series, which is usually a concert doc).

While Kurt is probably right about many of his complaints about the film (the “plot” is practically laughable), the performance scenes evened things out a bit (it helps that I like Prince’s music).

Also, seeing the film with a crowd DEFINITELY helped. We were handed purple glow sticks on the way in, which were waved by the crowd during the performance of the song “Purple Rain.”