Cinecast Episode 342 – Nobody is Happy After a Three Way

 
The only regret on this episode is that Matt Gamble couldn’t get Frank (from Film Junk) to cry at some point. From Kurt’s drunken obsession with the female form (seriously folks, it is profound) to Andrew’s bafflement at the hatred for Colin Farrell’s lens flares. It’s a good thing Ryan McNeil is somewhat of a veteran of the show as it takes a special type of mortal to endure this kind of full throttle podcast that only the Cinecast can deliver. Lessons learned: Kurt may or may not have had a three-way, gigolos are “amazing”, Robin Wright’s labia is probably what was in Marcellus Wallace’s brief case. Amongst all the tomfoolery, there is a debate on the merits of the Second Indiana Jones film and Amber Heard should retire yesterday. It’s all in here along with plenty more. Thanks to our guests for sticking it out late; it was a show for the ages – yet we magically come in at under three hours – this is what passes for ‘concentrated’ with this podcast…

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

 


 

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Full show notes are under the seats…

 


 

~ IN-HOUSE BUSINESS ~

– RowThree Oscar Live Blog/Chat and Oscar Pool
– High and Low Brow 5th Anniversary
Blindsided at The Matinee.ca

OPENING QUOTE:
Kevin Costner
in
Bull Durham

CLOSING BUMPER MUSIC:
“(I Don’t Care) I Love It”
by
Icona Pop


show content


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~ MAIN REVIEW(S) ~

 


 

~ TV REVIEWS ~

SEASON 1 EPISODE 6

 
 
 

SEASON 2

 


 

~ 1984 PROJECT ~

 


 

~ THE WATCH LIST ~

Kurt
The Counselor (extended edition)
Solaris (2002)

Frank
Flesh+Blood
The LEGO Movie

Ryan
– Steven Soderbergh’s Psychos (link here)
Pompeii (3D)

Matt
– “Gigolos”
– “Almost Human”

Andrew
The Hunt
Winter’s Tale

 


 

~ NEXT WEEK’S POTENTIAL REVIEW(S) ~

Academy Awards
– Non-Stop
– Visitors

 


 

~ COMMENTS or QUESTIONS? ~

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Kurt Halfyard
Admin

While we do not mention it on the show explicitly, next weeks 1984 project film will be GHOSTBUSTERS.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

And, as with any TEMPLE OF DOOM conversation, this is essential reading: http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2008/05/smitten-with-a-whip-three-appreciations-of-indiana-jones/

Gerry
Guest

Re True Detective, you’re all creaming over the reason the 2 detectives fell out was Michelle Monaghan when that was blindingly obvious from early on in the series when she seemed to like Rust. The episode was treading water to a degree, for me, because of this.

Not one of you commented on the really interesting part of the episode, i.e. Rust seemingly killing Tuttle for covering up the sex abuse in the church, either poisoning him or psychologically persuading him to overdose, Hannibal Lecter like.

Rust said in episode 1 that he’s not a psychopath when his lack of empathy for people he interviews, and suggesting one of them kill herself, would suggest that he very well might be.

At the end of episode 6 no guesses as to who the killer is? My guess is that the Macaroni face is a mask or a childs perception of some aspect of the killer. The only person with scars so far is the guy who’s cock was sliced up in prison.

Andrew James
Admin

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I need to rewatch this episode I think. I totally missed that Tuttle was dead or how he died.

As for guess on the killer, no idea. But I am wondering if somehow the two cops interrogating Rust and Marty are in on it somehow and just trying to gauge how much they know. It’s a stretch, but it’s an interesting stretch.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

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It’s mentioned in passing in 2012 that Tuttle died in 2011 or such. The two investigating 2012 cops suggest that Rust might have been the cause, it’s not a huge detail.

Michelle Monahan’s character didn’t have sex with Rust because she was attracted to him, but to make an irreconcilable action that would definitively split her up with Marty.

The more important aspect of Episode 6 that we didn’t discuss is one of the more obvious things in the show. That Rust knows what he is and his place in the world (cleaning up a small amount of filth but only a small amount) whereas Marty has zero self-awarenss and is a sad, confused human being.

Gerry
Guest

SPOILER ALERT TRUE DETECTIVE

‘Michelle Monahan’s character didn’t have sex with Rust because she was attracted to him, but to make an irreconcilable action that would definitively split her up with Marty.’

That was pretty obvious.

Gerry
Guest

SPOILER ALERT TRUE DETECTIVE (Sorry for not saying this before my earlier post)

The little screaming girl said the man with the scars was the worst, implying more than one abuser.

I think there’s an abuser / murder ring maybe related to Tuttles church, maybe not.

A stretch for me would be Harrelson being a part of it, but I don’t think that’s the case.

ultimo lee
Guest

Opening:
In-house business: 00:49
3 Days to Kill (SPOILERS!): 4:43
True Detective Epsiode 6: – 23:28
House of Cards: 48:02
The 1984 Project: Temple of Doom 1:17:19
Watch List: 1:50:03
Outro music: 2:54:44

Nat Almirall
Guest

The Temple of Doom discussion is likely the most Halfyardingest that’s ever been committed to sound.

Lido
Guest

Andrew,
Indy special features states that Kate capshaw leant the entire song ‘anything goes’ in mandarin so I guess it’s the real deal but agree, doesn’t sound like anything I’ve heard before either. Champagne episode by the way fellas

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

LIDO: thanks for the kind words and verification of language!

Side note: I know you were just using a figure of speech, but it is amusing that, indeed, I was drinking champagne over the course of that episode — (well, Ontario made sparkling white (Trius BRUT), highly recommended, although, perhaps not a whole bottle whilst podcasting.

Matt Gamble
Guest

There was a good hour where there was a serious risk Kurt would start stripping AND making it rain.

Andrew James
Guest

About 3 years ago on New Years Eve, I learned the hard way about too much champagne. Too much = anything more than 2 glasses.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Now he tells me…

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I think 1984 being such a fun adventerous year for movies, I’ve shown my kids a lot of films from this year. They even did a KidsTalkFilm on Temple of Doom a couple of years ago, which is now one of my daughters favourite films (and which she watched with me again just before this Cinecast was recorded.

The show is embedded below:

Sean Kelly
Guest

It’s safe to say that Temple of Doom is my least favourite Indiana Jones film (including Crystal Skull).

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

We shall disagree. Temple of Doom my favorite, and I pretend that Kingdom doesn’t even exist.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Last Crusade is my favourite

Andrew James
Admin

That’s insane sir. 🙂

Bob
Guest

I agree with Sean on this one.

DavidM
Guest

A couple of recent quotes re: True Detective.

Pizzolatto (writer): “I’ve enjoyed reading people theorize about what’s going to happen because it’s a sign that you’re connecting. But I’m also sort of surprised by how far afield they’re getting. Like, why do you think we’re tricking you? It’s because you’ve been abused as an audience for more than 20 years. The show’s not trying to outsmart you. And really if you pay attention… if someone watches the first episode and really listens, it tells you 85 percent of the story of the first six episodes.”

Fukunaga (director): “The next season, I think, has to do with something industrial in California. But it will be based on crimes somehow limited to truth rather than fantasy, if that makes sense. These characters and this director are done at the end of this season.”

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Gerry
Guest

Pizzolatto might not be trying to trick the audience in a major way but he is in the way specific to the genre, i.e. with red herrings.

Despite Rust denying being a psychopath and saying he’s the one person in the police department who doesn’t needs counselling he smashes a tool kit into someones head for failing to tell him where a brothel is, which is lying by omission, which is less criminal than his, Rust, buying drugs off a hooker.

If Rust is as intelligent as everyone says he’d’ve realised the poor bloke who got his head nearly taken off might have suffered brain damage, but being a psychopath, or at least having psychopathic tendencies, he doesn’t care.

I don’t buy that the constant stream of drugs in his system dulled him to this as it doesn’t stop him being super intelligent, apparently, in every other regard.

In the latest episode they were playing the music from the Silence Of The Lambs scene where Lecter was in his cell and proceeded to horrifically despatch the 2 guards, when Rust interviewed the screaming girl.

Classic misdirection, if a little too obvious. For me, Rust might be a psychopath but he’s a dedicated detective psychopath.

Similarly with Marty, the daughters doll abuse diorama, his shooting the maybe witness to his involvement in the abuse ring and scaring the other guy into accidentally blowing himself up so Rust wouldn’t find out about his involvement in the abuse ring (if that’s what the killer(s) is), and buggering off from the 2 present day detectives once he realises they suspect Rust, not him, are, again, classic red herrings, if from red herrings 101.

I’m not really interested in the theories from other forums but it would be nice to get a bit of speculation on Row Three or Film Junk, instead of spending ages analysing the bleeding obvious. e.g. was Rust responsible for Tuttles overdose, or was the drunken preacher the one who lied to Rust about finding the child abuse pictures?

Despite Pizzolatto’s less than stellar red herrings I’m really enjoying the show.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Speculation is for people that having nothing better to do. I remember there being literal essays written about LOST.

Just enjoy the show for what it is and stop trying to figure out the story in your head.

Gerry
Guest

Isn’t speculation a big part of film etc blogs and podcasts, e.g. speculating who will win oscars, speculation about upcoming Star Wars etc movies?

You yourself speculated in the oscar pool post in this blog.

If you took your own advice shouldn’t you just enjoy the oscar show and stop trying to figure out the winners in your head?

Personally I don’t think you should, I think you should enjoy the heck out of speculating about who will win on Sunday.

Good luck to you my friend.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Got around to watching THE HUNT last night (and then continued a Mads Mikkelsen-themed night by watching the season premiere of HANNIBAL right after).

While I still think THE BROKEN CIRCLE BREAKDOWN will be the film to win the Oscar, I wasn’t all that bothered by how the plot played out. Even though it can be frustrating how quickly the town turns on Mikkelsen’s character, it isn’t entirely unbelievable either. Once people get an idea in their head (especially involving a crime as heinous pedophilia), it can be hard not to let passions take over.

Andrew James
Admin

it’s not unbelievable. It’s just not that interesting or challenging. It plays out exactly like one would expect it to play out.

Rick Vance
Guest

As someone born after Temple of Doom was released I will say the fact that it is dark, weird, action packed is a huge plus for it.

I also think Harrison Ford is at his best in ToD even though I would tie it with Raiders because IT IS FUCKING RAIDERS, Doom is easily miles ahead of Crusade and the new one doesn’t factor in.

Rick Vance
Guest

Also Mr McNeil I am sorry to say but your comments are those of “the man” or a parental figure of someone who is getting out of touch with what kids actually want and into the assuming role of an elder.

Kids ALWAYS want the thing held from reach, the weird stuff, the gross stuff, the violent stuff. It is true in comics, in video games, in animation and in movies.

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