Cinecast Episode 339 – Well, There it Is.

What does a 30 year old Oscar winner, a critically panned melodrama and the shocking death of a fine actor all have in common? They form the basis for discussion on this weeks Cinecast. Andrew & Kurt look back at the multitudinous highlights of Philip Seymour Hoffman’s career, each offering a top performance list. We then dive deep into the 1984 Project with Milos Forman’s much fêted Amadeus. A Shakespearean-inflected tale of a 17th century court composer plotting the demise of his musical rival when he cannot deal with the melange of Wolfgang Mozart’s genius and crassness, Antonio Salieri fluctuates with all the hand wringing conflict, squandered piety and delightful vulgarity in front of him. In the meantime, Kurt does some hand-wringing of his own over his enjoyment of Jason Reitman’s Labour Day, and the young director’s career to date. A very small watchlist rounds out the show. Also, appy-polly-wollies in advance for an overly long opening bit.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


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~ IN-HOUSE BUSINESS ~

Mega-Mamo (with Kurt Halfyard)

OPENING QUOTE:
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
in
Along Came Polly, Almost Famous, Patch Adams, Happiness, Boogie Nights, Charlie Wilson’s War, Doubt, Twister, The Big Lebowski, Hard Eight

CLOSING BUMPER MUSIC:
“Rock Me Amadeus”
by
Falco

 


 

~ HOFFMAN MEMORIAL ~

TOP PSH ROLES

Andrew
5) Happiness
4) Twister
3) Big Lebowski
2) Almost Famous
1) Charlie Wilson’s War

HM: Capote, Along Came Polly, Doubt, Synecdoche NY

Kurt
5) Happiness
4) Owning Mahoney
3) Boogie Nights
2) The Master
1) Synecdoche, NY

HM: Magnolia, 25th Hour

 


 

~ MAIN REVIEW ~

Labor Day

 


 

~ 1984 PROJECT ~

 


 

~ THE WATCH LIST ~

Andrew
Epic

Kurt
“Reamde” (book)

 


 

~ OTHER STUFF MENTIONED ~

In God We Trust (Jason Reitman short)
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~ NEXT WEEK’S POTENTIAL REVIEW(S) ~


– The Monuments Men

 


 

~ COMMENTS or QUESTIONS? ~

Leave your thoughts in the comment section below, otherwise feel free to contact us:
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Arnold Schizopolis
Guest

I remember Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead. It’s dark. Not to spoil, but there is one specific PSH scene from what I can remember that is tooo close to real life. It’s a good film that I never planned on rewatching. After PSH’s passing, I definitely won’t now.

Matt Brown
Admin

That was some kind of epic opening, guys.

Andrew James
Admin

A little long. Sorry. Not really.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I think it could have been longer, just going through lots of PSH quotes from pretty much anything he was in and they are almost 100% winners!

ultimolee
Guest

Opening/Hoffman Tribute:
In-house business/ Remembering PSH: 16:37
Top 5 Philip Seymour Hoffman Roles: 34:19
Labor Day: 47:27
The 1984 Project: Amadeus: 1:00:58
Watch List: 1:35:52
Next week: 1:54:49
Outro music: 1:57:44

Andrew James
Admin

I wish we would’ve talked a little bit more about Tom Hulce.

As much as I really like Amadeus, I don’t love/adore it the way I feel like I should. And I can’t totally put my finger on why. But I think part of it is Hulce’s performance. He does the laugh and that brings something to the role, but it’s a bit gimmicky and the character otherwise is fairly boring and un-emotive. I think someone else could’ve made a much more compelling character.

But as we said, the movie isn’t about him, it’s about Salieri. And Abraham’s performance is beyond terrific. Still, a better performance for Mozart might’ve elevated the movie quite a bit. The chemistry between the two is mediocre at best and it’s only Abraham that make the scenes really work.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

It’s the difference between his life, and when he is in the creative zone that is the most interesting aspect of HULCE’s performance, when he’s into his opera or concert, he’s a force of nature, when he’s just hanging out, he’s a vulgar twit….but when he is talking about what he is aiming to do to folks, he’s passionate and articulate. It’s a complex performance.

Goon
Guest

It’s OK Kurt, I liked Labor Day too. Saw at TIFF. Am curious if it had been tinkered with since then as the reception at TIFF was considerably stronger than the theatrical release. My screening had a standing ovation even.

One thing that strung me along in the film that seems that others don’t see is the idea of Brolin as possibly just putting on a face on things to take advantage of these damaged people. A lot of people just see him as honest superdad all along and I could see that effecting the investment into what’s happening, causing a lack of tension.

Kurt
Guest

***POTENTIAL SPOILERS***I also saw him as nefarious, possibly machiavellian. I thought the flashbacks were supposed to be Winslet, not Brolin…which kind of miffed me at some point because it was the director fucking with audience…but I still really liked Brolin’s performance.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Phillip Seymour Hoffman had one major scene left to shoot for Hunger Games: Mocking Jay Part 2 and by all reports they are going to insert him in digitally (which is not unlike what they did with Oliver Reed in Gladiator).

Kurt
Guest

AND IT STUNK in Gladiator. Hopefully 14 years onward and folks have gotten better at these sort of ‘fixes’.

Andrew James
Admin

Didn’t work in Tron Legacy either.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I couldn’t believe my ears when Andrew said “he wasn’t even a Canadian hockey player” in reference to (Brantford, ON born) Wayne Gretzky and Kurt agreed.

Kurt
Guest

I clearly missed that part. I have the same birthday as Mr. Gretzky, I’m fully aware he’s from Brantford. I remember, I was camping in New Brunswick when we heard over the radio that The Oil had traded him to LA.

Andrew James
Admin

Part of it is that I have zero knowledge or care about hockey. Which is weird for a Minnesotan.

I like baseball and basketball.

Sean Kelly
Guest

1984 OSCARS

Best Picture:
Amadeus (winner)
The Killing Fields
A Passage to India
Places in the Heart
A Soldier’s Story

Best Director:
Miloš Forman – Amadeus (winner)
Woody Allen – Broadway Danny Rose
Robert Benton – Places in the Heart
Roland Joffe – The Killing Fields
David Lean – A Passage to India

Best Actor:
F. Murray Abraham – Amadeus (winner)
Jeff Bridges – Starman
Albert Finney – Under the Volcano
Tom Hulce – Amadeus
Sam Waterston – The Killing Fields

Best Actress:
Sally Field – Places in the Heart (winner)
Judy Davis – A Passage to India
Jessica Lange – Country
Vanessa Redgrave – The Bostonians
Sissy Spacek – The River

Best Supporting Actor:
Haing S. Ngor – The Killing Fields (Winner)
Adolph Caesar – A Soldier’s Story
John Malkovich – Places in the Heart
Pat Morita – The Karate Kid
Ralph Richardson – Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes

Best Supporting Actress:
Peggy Ashcroft – A Passage to India (Winner)
Glenn Close – The Natural
Lindsay Crouse – Places in the Heart
Christine Lahti – Swing Shift
Geraldine Page – The Pope of Greenwich Village

Best Original Screenplay:
Places in the Heart – Robert Benton (Winner)
Beverly Hills Cop – Danilo Bach and Daniel Petrie, Jr.
Broadway Danny Rose – Woody Allen
The North – Gregory Nava and Anna Thomas
Splash – Brian Grazer, Lowell Ganz, Babaloo Mandel and Bruce Jay Friedman

Best Adapted Screenplay:
Amadeus – Peter Shaffer (Winner)
Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes – P.H. Vazak and Michael Austin
The Killing Fields – Bruce Robinson
A Passage to India – David Lean
A Soldier’s Story – Charles Fuller

Not going to post the technical categories, but all together Amadeus won 8 (Picture, Director, Actor, Adapted Screenplay, Art Direction, Costume Design, Make-Up, and Sound Mixing)

Sean Kelly
Guest

You really should reconsider skipping THE LEGO MOVIE. It is probably one of the most original and well-made animated films in ages.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

I have serious trouble accepting that statement.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Yes, it’s hard to shallow that this is not just another “make a movie to sell toys” film, but the directors Phil Lord and Christopher Miller (best known for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and 21 Jump Street) really have a lot of fun with the concept and there’s a very careful attention to detail that makes the film feel like it’s truly made out of LEGO blocks (despite being CGI).

Andrew James
Admin

I did not know it was from the CLOUDY and JUMP STREET guys.

Those two movies are excellent. I am reconsidering, but time is at a premium these days. Sigh…

ultimolee
Guest

When even critics as snobbish as Michael Phillips are saying it’s great, it’s a safe bet it’s pretty good at the very least.

I was sold by the trailer.

For the 84 project: have either of you guys seen The Hit (i’m sure i heard Kurt has) or a japanese film called The Funeral?

Two good left field choices.

Andrew James
Guest

Yeah the reviews for LEGO movie are crazy positive. I think I’m going to go check this out.

Kurt Halfyard
Guest

I came, I saw, I regretted it. I’ll probably skip out on MONUMENTS MEN due to the snow tonite. Watch NIGHTMARE ON ELM ST. instead…

Kurt Halfyard
Guest
Jape Man
Guest

Kurt seems to have hated The Lego movie, shoulda seen Vampire Academy instead :p haha

#iweepformirandahalfyard

fuck
Guest

Kurt, his name is Josh Brolin, not Brolynn.

I get you’re a total retard in name-spelling, but spelling something as easy “Brolin” wrong? Really? That’s a new low…

Andrew James
Admin

Clearly a new listener. It’s a running joke. Kind of like your hilarious name.

Jandy
Guest

I did think it was hilarious that we got two or three of these from Kurt in this episode, and then he corrected Andrew on how to pronounce Milos Forman’s name (“Mee-losh”)….and he was right. Apparently Kurt can pronounce Czech better than English. 🙂

Andrew James
Admin

Ha yes. I always defer to Kurt for foreign pronunciations. But if it’s something as simple as Affleck or Rickman, I just sit back and listen, giggling.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I have a number of Czech and Serbian friends who straightened me out on the C’s and the S’s in their neck of the woods.

Jandy
Guest

It’s the ř that’s tough for me in Czech.

(I say this like I know Czech; I learned a few words before visiting Prague ten years ago, nearly all of which I’ve forgotten, but I remember a lot of the pronunciation rules.)

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I cannot easily roll my “r”s so I cheat and just prounce it like a gargle-y “zee”

Jandy
Guest

I really like Amadeus myself, but every time I think about it, I can’t help remembering how much my mom disliked it – actually I’m not sure she ever made it through Mozart’s first scene (I think he’s running around being vulgar with a girl under a table or something). She is a huge fan of classical music in general and Mozart in particular and I think for her, it was like Kurt mentioned at one point – she couldn’t stand to see him portrayed as a vulgar oaf. Which is part of the point of the story (and whether or not that’s how Mozart actually was is beside the point of the story), but there’s no way she could get past it to enjoy the movie.

Jandy
Guest

And this is the Finite Focus entry Kurt mentioned, with the marihuana-smoking scene from Milos Forman’s first US film, Taking Off.

http://www.rowthree.com/2011/11/29/finite-focus-how-to-smoke-a-joint-taking-off/