Cinecast Episode 336 – The Delivery of Disapproval

Trying out a new segment this week in our 1984 Project. We’ll be reviewing a different high profile (to us, anyway) film from 1984 each week for the foreseeable future. This week, that picture is 1984’s highest grossing film, Beverly Hills Cop. Before we get there though, we talk Iran’s submission for the foreign language Oscar (not nominated), The Past (Le passé). We also have a television show for one of our main reviews in episode one of HBO’s new series, “True Detective.” Lastly, there’s a bit of a watch list tucked in there towards the end of the show as well in which Andrew finally sees the latest Spike Jonze masterpiece and Kurt travels with Julia Roberts and Ms. Streep to Osage County.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


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Full show notes are under the seats…

 


 

~ IN-HOUSE BUSINESS ~

– Oscar noms are out!
– Kurt’s kids watch The Secret World of Arrietty (watch review here)
The Movie Club Podcast coming soon (noir) | Pick up on South Street, Big Combo

OPENING QUOTE:
Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson
in
“True Detective”

CLOSING BUMPER MUSIC:
“Mind Over Matter”
by
Young the Giant

 


 

~ REVIEWS ~

The Past
True Detective (HBO)

 


 

~ 1984 PROJECT ~

 


 

~ THE WATCH LIST ~

Andrew
Her
– Our Idiot Brother

Kurt
– August: Osage County
– Fight Club

 


 

~ NEXT WEEK’S POTENTIAL REVIEW(S) ~


– Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit
– Big Bad Wolves

 


 

~ COMMENTS or QUESTIONS? ~

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Ultimo Lee
Guest

Opening: In-house business: 1:46
The Past (SPOILERS!): 20:00
True Detective (SPOILERS!): 33:37
The 1984 Project: Beverly Hills Cop 54:49
Watch List: 1:22:17
Next week: 2:09:42
Outro music: 2:19:37

Markus Krenn
Guest
Mike_Rot
Guest

On Netflix: what looks like the entire oeuvre of Ken Burns was just dumped onto Netflix.ca this month.  I’m in heaven.  Halfway through Prohibition and inspired me to buy first season of Boardwalk Empire.  Stuff like this makes Netflix great in my books… but it is a matter of price point, if it was $20 a month I would binge watch everything I like and cancel.  The price is right.

KurtHalfyard
Guest

Mike_Rot Again, NETFLIX.CA kicks ass at docs.  It’s high time I watched Burns’ Gettysburg.

Schizopolis
Guest

tiny spoiler for Her……..Did it seem that it was socially acceptable in Her’s futureworld to receive a fake handwritten letter from a loved one, but written by a professional??  That’s how I interpreted it. But early in the film, I wondered whether or not the receivers of these “handwritten” letters knew they were fake.  Then a few throwaway lines between Joaquin and Chris Pratt made me think…”oh, everyone knows” and it’s just a future “upgrade” to receiving a hallmark cards today.  That concept was totally fitting to the theme of the film and it was subtle.  Makes me love the film even more.

Mike_Rot
Guest

Kurt, that Fight Club line you think is the most risque about grade school was used to replace the original, more controversial one: “I want to have your abortion”

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I believe the story goes that they originally used the line “I haven’t been fucked like that since grade school.” then the head of FOX asked them to change it, so they re-shot the scene with “I want to have your abortion” and then the head of FOX said, OK, OK, use the first one.

I’ve heard a few different takes on this story, I’m not sure which version is true.

Matt Gamble
Guest

The abortion line was shot first, head of FOX asked for a reshoot and Fincher said he would but the reshoot had to be used instead and the studio head agreed to it in writing. After seeing the reshoot the studio head asked for the original to be used and Fincher held them to the written agreement.

I believe it is discussed on the Fight Club commentary track.

ajames1
Guest

Schizopolis I just had it in my head that the people did NOT know that they were written by a professional. Didn’t notice the “throwaway lines” you mention.  Either way it’s an interesting concept.
I do think it feels a little cold, but when you put it in the context of sort of an upgraded Hallmark card, then it makes more sense and I like the idea.

Arnold Schizopolis
Guest

I interpreted that the receivers knew their letters were professionally written. The name of the website is no secret to the public, i think joaquin tells pratt that he’s been writing someone’s letters for years and the fact that his letters were published into a book. The concept seemed to unfold throughout the film as its own separate mystery. In that world, it seemed socially acceptable to receive a touching, but fake handwritten letter just as it’s acceptable to have an emotional connection with your OS.

ajames1
Guest

Schizopolis As an aside, my other nitpick was Olivia Wilde’s character suddenly flipping out and calling Theo creepy.  That irked me from script point of view.

Arnold Schizopolis
Guest

my knitpicks were the humphrey bogart pants and burt reynolds mustaches lol

the olivia wilde meltdown didn’t seem inauthentic to me, but she did piss me off a little coz i identified with Theo. Maybe the casting choice i have issue with. Beautiful neurotic women only seem to live in woody allen movies..which probably why Spike framed Wilde less perfect. Even her profile pics didn’t look like her.

ajames1
Guest

Mike_Rot  I’ve been watching “Baseball” on and off for about 2 months.

ajames1
Guest

Here’s that “over the top” image I didn’t like from HER:
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Matt Gamble
Guest

You need to date more crazy women.

Thomas Wishloff
Guest

Alright I’ll bite, what happened to the comment section?

Kurt
Guest

LiveFyre was having some weird quirks about not publishing every comment, and I threw a fit about it, so we disabled the system until we can find something better … or we redesign the site top to bottom.

Sean Kelly
Guest

As great a song Axel F is, sadly younger folks will likely remember it more from this: http://youtu.be/k85mRPqvMbE

Sean Kelly
Guest

BTW, it was quite ironic that I finished hearing you talk about BEVERLY HILLS COP and I happened to come across it while browsing The Movie Network OnDemand last night for something to watch.

Even though it did cross my mind to put it on (since I never saw the film), I ended up switching to Netflix and watched HOUSE OF CARDS instead (since I want to finish the first season before the second one starts).

Andrew James
Admin

House of Cards (s2) will be streaming in 4K apparently. Not sure what kind of bandwidth you need for that, but… here comes the future. Now I just need to get one of those new-fangled TVs.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

You would be wise to wait until well past the tipping point, and you’ll get the TV at perhaps 1/3 of the price the ‘bleeding edge’ folks pay. I was happy to skip the window of expensive BLU ray players, and expensive BLU ray discs.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Regular HD has a resolution of 1920×1080

4K Ultra HD will have a resolution of 3840 x 2160

You do the math of how much bandwidth you’d need (it’ll likely be a lot).

DavidM
Guest

I checked out True Detective on the recommendation of some friends. Loved it; it’s like a mournful, Southern Gothic Twin Peaks.

Jane
Guest

True Detective is fantastic!! I am glad you guys discussed it. Fukunaga has directed all 8 episodes which is even more exciting so there will be that great cinematic style and continuity throughout the season. I recommend watching this on the biggest screen possible!!

phips
Guest

i assume its too much to ask for a written version of the review of True Detective?

Heya
Guest

Kurt, you have a serious problem spelling words and names. For instance in this episode: you can’t spell “Ghibli”. It’s not spelled Jee-blee. It’s Gib-lee (as in Gibson).

And this isn’t nitpicking. You do it with tons of other words and expressions, and it pisses me off!

Andrew James
Admin

Do you mean pronounced it Jee-blee? That’s a possibility. But we’ve never spelled it Jee-blee. Ever.

And even if we had, I’m the one who does all of the show notes, so it would by misspelling, not Kurt’s. Again though, I would never ever spell it that incorrectly.

Lastly, Kurt’s mispronunciation of names and things is legendary on this show and at this point it’s rather endearing. He still says “pro-see-jorial” too. If you’re mad about that kind of thing, this isn’t your crew to listen to probably. Hope you continue though!

Matt Gamble
Guest

I’ll back Kurt in that I really don’t care if he mispronounces the names. Most people pronounce all sorts of names and don’t know it.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Also furthering my point that people fuck up pronunciations all the time:

Q. How do you say “Ghibli”?

Even though “Ghibli” is an Italian word, it is said jee-blee (or ji-bu-ri in Japanese) when referring to Studio Ghibli. That’s how Miyazaki says it, so that’s the official pronunciation.

Kurt
Guest

HEYA: I am 99.9% confident of my pronunciation of GHIBLI is the correct one, and the pre-dominant one. I have heard Miyazaki-san speak in person on two occasions at festivals, as well attended dozen of speaker introduced “STUDIO GHIBLI” presentations, all speakers pronounce it “JIB-lee”

That being said, as long as communications are established, I”m not too much of a stickler on Pronunciations. Before podcasting and social media and such, I was kind of a solo-movie goer reading a number of books, and magazines. I didn’t have TV or cable so never watched TV criticism, so I get much of my mis-pronunciations from how I do that in my head when I read. It’s never really stopped our podcast, or prevented discussion with readers, other than the occasional giggle or two at Benna Fleck.

Sean Kelly
Guest

When it’s all said and done, Jib-lee/Jee-Blee is probably not much different than Po-Tay-Tow/Po-Tah-Tow. It’s all a matter of preference.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

So is Benna Fleck! Yessirree.

Jandy Hardesty
Guest

I kind of agree with both you, Andrew, and the Mamo guys on Netflix. I tend to get annoyed with people talk about not finding anything good on Netflix Instant, because there is a ton of great stuff on there. Even leaving aside the TV, which is booming, my queue is burgeoning with everything from indies to foreign films to mainstream films to docs. It’s admittedly low on “canon” (but didn’t Mamo argue canon doesn’t matter?).

At the same time, thinking about the future of streaming services, it’s kind of frustrating. Netflix is going after TV and going after HBO with original content, which is limiting how many movies they’re adding. They’re now encouraging people to think of them as a channel, with a rotating library of films. Which again, I’m absolutely getting my money’s worth out of that rotating library.

But to get the widest possible library of films, I’m paying $8 to Netflix, $8 to Amazon Prime (they have more studio-era films, but granted, I mostly got Prime for the shipping – I probably wouldn’t subscribe to Prime Video on its own), $8 to Hulu (for Criterion), and $10 to Warner Archive Instant (which has studio era films NONE of the others do). That’s not including cable and HBO, which I also have (and opens up movie streaming options on HBO Go and TCM Now). It’s a fragmentation problem. I don’t really want to pay all these different companies and use all these different apps, I want to pay one company and use one app and have what all the companies have available. So yes, Netflix has good stuff on it. And it’s good enough for $8 a month. But it’s not good enough for the long-term future of digital subscription entertainment. Because I shouldn’t have to decide whether I want to watch something on Netflix or Amazon or Hulu or iTunes or Vudu or Ultraviolet or HBO Go or Warner Archive or whatever – I should be able to just decide I want to watch a movie and go to one place. Whoever solves this problem wins the digital entertainment space, and Netflix has not solved it.

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