Mamo #326: Gravatar

Gravity continues into its second weekend of box office domination and as the inevitable backlash winds up, Matt and Matt take a few trips around the planet in their space suits to talk about god, the lack of same, and how we ascribe meaning to our big screen counterparts by way of great filmmaking.

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Thomas Wishloff
Guest

I felt the script was hollow, although that didn’t actually detract from the viewing experience. I’m the only person in the whole world who finds Alfonso Curaon to be a lazy writer, but a really good visual director. No I didn’t find it “unworthy,” but I did find it lacking in meaningful thematic substance (SPOILER ALERT: the heaven/hell/puragotry thing I missed that). That being said the film played to all of Curaon’s strengths, and it’s pretty damn beautiful. It may not be the greatest movie ever made, but it’s pretty darn good.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Gravity might just be the easiest movie ever to dub into other languages. Most of the time it’s more voice over than anything else…

Andrew James
Guest

“The dialogue could not be written any better.” Seriously? The acting and dialogue is gratingly horrible and not even executed well. Particularly that opening scene. It’s clear they weren’t even recording that conversation at the same time. That not a nitpick; it’s a legit criticism of the movie.

Matt Price
Guest

yes – from our perspective and in our opinions. We aren’t in the habit of saying things we don’t believe in.

In other words, maybe don’t come into a discussion with “seriously?”, because that’s kind of rude in my opinion.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Andrew uses “Seriously?” and “Really?” as affectations and I doubt he realizes he does it. Getting annoyed with him for it wwould be like getting pissed at Kurt because he can’t pronounce words even a toddler can, like “put”.

Matt Price
Guest

Oh so it’s like when you say super hurtful stuff about everyone all the time got it

Matt Gamble
Guest

We have a bingo!

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I’m not sure how much of this is serious and how much of this is bad comedy, but either way, I’m laughing.

Go Foibles!

Andrew James
Admin

Not meant to be rude. Just meant as a “maybe think through it a bit more before sounding off.”

If you believe the script is perfect and couldn’t be done better, then that’s fine I guess. I think the script could’ve used a lot of polish and made some moments a lot more interesting, heartfelt and earned. I think a lot of the dialogue here was to explain shit to the audience that didn’t really need explaining or it was a lazy mechanism to get us from one place to the next. So when I say “seriously?,” I mean seriously if all movies were written with this kind of uninteresting dialogue, it’s likely this site wouldn’t even exist. I’d get bored with the thrill ride really quickly.

Goon
Guest

I don’t think the acting or writing are bad. Somewhat generic and uninteresting? I’d say, yeah. Maybe that means its bad, I just took it as “Because they’re astronauts.”

Andrew James
Admin

Nail on head. I guess it’s not really “bad.” It’s just not delivered very well and it’s very uninteresting.

I think the general sort of banter that astronauts have with the ground (Mr. Houston) and each other is pretty similar to the kind of dialogue spewed in the film. I just don’t think Clooney/Harris/Bullock pull it off very well in this case and it the written words just feel unnatural.

For instance, we’ll be talking about Captain Phillips tonight; which in a lot of ways is pretty similar to Gravity – but the emotion and immersion is pulled off way better (imo) because the characters’ banter doesn’t seem forced or rote. I cared deeply about these guys for some reason – even the no-name guys. Whereas while watching Gravity, I didn’t give two shits about what happened to Bullock. Maybe I’m alone on this, but for me, emotion is what runs the cinema. I go to movies to feel something (usually); not just gawk and grab the armrests – though that can be fun too, it just isn’t as impactful or something I’ll remember for as long.

tederick
Guest

ajames1 Uh – why are the rest of the comments gone?

ajames1
Guest

tederick¬†ajames1¬†It’s being worked on. ¬†LiveFyre is working on getting all previous comments imported into the system.
Also, the aesthetic look is temporary. ¬†I’ll be customizing throughout the weekend.

tederick
Guest

ajames1¬†All right, new question: why LiveFyre, and not Disqus? I don’t have a dog in that race, I’m just curious.

ajames1
Guest

tederick ajames1 One big reason (originally) is that LiveFyre stores all comments on OUR server and theirs.  That way if I ever pull the plug, all of our comments are still here. It turns out now that Disqus does that too but I had already started with this a while back.
I also like the “live comments” popping up in real time and there are some other innovations LiveFyre has (that I have not yet implemented) that Disqus lacks.

Mike_Rot
Guest

ajames1 tederick if you probe deep enough there is some link to Google+ in all this, I know it.

ajames1
Guest

Mike_Rot¬†ajames1¬†tederick¬†Heh. ¬†Probably is somewhere. But I cam back in here to say that the support from LiveFyre has been very responsive and friendly. ¬†Have had no experience with Disqus support, but Google searches say it’s not that great.

coreypierceart
Guest

http://talkbacker.com/movies/gravity-is-the-mother-of-all-sci-fi-duds-a-feminists-perspective/id=11576
Wanna read something really stupid, that got Scott Weinberg in a lot of trouble for the way he said it was stupid?

coreypierceart
Guest

Never mind that I even posted the above.
Talkbacker is a new site that is apparently a splinter or something of AICN.  Their concept is that it is 100% user generated content.
This post today got a lot of attention, mini-viral.¬† However I did a TinEye search on the authors photo and found its using Rebecca Walker’s photo, a famous feminist, daughter of Alice Walker, author of the Color Purple.
So this article is by a very clever fraud trying to make an accurate approximation of a radical feminist.¬† Fooled me for a good while.¬† And fooled the site mods.¬† This kind of… undermines their concept.¬† Talkbacker got Catfished.

KurtHalfyard
Guest

coreypierceart¬†That article was way over the top in terms of ‘feminist language’ and such. ¬†But on the internet, it’s easy to be fooled by hyperbole, because so many people and groups do it.

coreypierceart
Guest

KurtHalfyard
May actually be real after all. And its not the only article like it out there.  Attacking it because a man is always helping her along the way, even as a ghost. (Even though the ghost is really herself)

Rick Vance
Guest

The space station was on fire because the Russians sabotaged it like they sabotaged the other escape pod before jumping ship.

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