Mamo #314: Superbat

Comic Con is behind us and so are the big guns of the summer of 2013. What does the Batman/Superman announcement say about the health of Warner Brothers and their DC comics franchise? Nothing good, says we…

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Matthew Fabb
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Whedon said at ComicCon in the day following the announcement that the Age of Ultron movie has nothing to do with the comic, they just both used the same title. I wonder if Marvel is looking ahead and plans on pushing trades or even a nice hardcover of the comic into stores around the time of the movie.

Also Whedon says that Hank Pym, aka Ant-Man the creator of Ultron in the comics won’t be in the movie. They are letting Edgar Wright have the first crack at establishing that character.

My guess with Tony Stark already having his suits being powered by an AI at the end of Iron Man 3, that he tries to take the next step of having a full AI so that he doesn’t have to step back into the suit. Only for things to go wrong, creating Ultron, forcing him back into the suit.

Way back in April at the world premiere of Iron Man 3, Whedon was talking about saving Thanos for the grand finale. Some thought this meant Thanos was only going to appear in act 3 of Avengers, but now it seems obvious that Whedon meant saving him for the 3rd Avengers movie.

As for Superman / Batman, I think this really says that they are afraid of trying to put together a Justice League movie. That they were unsure of how to make all the other characters work. That Superman / Batman is the easy way out in increasing the box office. Rather than say David S. Goyer or Zack Snyder having a really good pitch or take on the character.

Speaking Warner Brothers has a script for the Flash already from David S. Goyer and hell, even a script (or at least outline) from Joss Whedon for Wonder Woman. However, they just seem to be so afraid of going forward with these projects despite seeing Marvel’s success. Meanwhile, DC Animation continues to have great success and continues to make great straight to dvd animated movies.

Michael M
Guest

I heard a rumor about Ultron that matches with Matthew Fabb’s guess. I heard that RDJ while renewing his contract bargained for creative input on the films. He wanted his character, Tony Stark, to take it to the next level and do something destructive because of his own arrogance and what not. That’s why the team (Whedon Feige ) decided to take the Ultron route for the sequel.

Matthew Fabb
Guest

Whedon when asked why Ultron had said that while working on the first Avengers script long before he had decided to work on the second movie, suggested that the Ultron be the villain for Avengers 2. So perhaps RDJ might have had an influence, but it seems like something Whedon had wanted to do for quite some time.

Whedon read the Avengers comic as a kid in the 1970’s and not only were Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch main characters, but Ultron was one of the regular villains. It seems that era of Avengers has the most pull on Whedon than any day modern stuff.

Michael M
Guest

“paintings…” lol. Yeah why do these popular celebs wanna do paintings?!! It’s funny that Mr. Brown thinks Gore Verbinski and Johnny Depp is the underdogs of cinema whereas Terrence Malick and Gaspar Noé can not even put together miniscule budgets to make their “tiny masterpieces”.. (Malick got sued i think…) 😉

Michael M
Guest

lol… I don’t remember hearing about your hatred toward Malick in previous episodes. BTW Soderbergh pledges $10k for Spike Lee’s kickstarter and it becomes a huge news. I thought it was a given that any filmmaker would help out his/her colleagues to do their passion projects!

Rick Vance
Guest

I am going to disagree about the comment about Wonder Woman not being tricky.

One of the reasons Wonder Woman really hasn’t stuck in the comics in any large way for a very long time is that when people go to tackle characters they go back to the roots and work from there and the roots of Wonder Woman are full of a lot of themes and ideas that do not translate well at all.

It is kinda like how a great deal of the Superheroes don’t really apply for lack of a better word to today’s modern world and probably should have ended decades ago.

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