Cinecast Episode 311 – As The Furious Turns

A the fifth Fast and Furious sequel speeds into the multiplex, Kurt and Andrew go deep into the nuance and complex character interactions that have defined the last 12 years of this franchise. OK, not so much. Instead we ask questions about Spanish airport design, what becomes of the 100 commuter funerals after the credits roll, and just how well one can control London surveillance cameras these days. It’s easy to pick on the story inanities of the Furious Franchise, but we do take time to admire the 2nd unit elements of the film, and the editing of parallel action which are excellent. Andrew talks the new Arrested Development season up on Netflix, Kurt is all over the map in trying to parse the motivation and execution of Ridley Scott’s Director’s Cut of Kingdom of Heaven. Frank Capra gets some show time with Arsenic & Old Lace and the cultural impact of It’s A Wonderful Life.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


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Full show notes are under the seats…

 


 

~ IN-HOUSE BUSINESS ~

Comix Asylum
– Kurt’s kids talk Jaws
Screener Series kind-of re-launches with The Prestige.

OPENING QUOTE:
Bruce Dern
in
Thumb Tripping

CLOSING BUMPER MUSIC:
“My Way Or The Highway”
by
Limp Bizkit

 


 

~ REVIEWS ~

Fast & Furious 6

 


 

~ THE WATCH LIST ~

Kurt
Kingdom of Heaven
Contact
Arsenic and Old Lace

Andrew
– “Arrested Development” (s4)

 


 

~ NEXT WEEK’S REVIEW(S) ~


– Now You See Me
– Behind the Candelabra
– Deceptive Practice: The Mysteries and Mentors of Ricky Jay
– Frances Ha

 


 

~ COMMENTS or QUESTIONS? ~

feedback@rowthree.com (general)
andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com

 

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Kurt
Guest

AhhhhH! I finally got an explanation for F6’s gratuitous street-race scene between Vin Diesel and Michelle Rodriguez…It’s actually the films gratuitous sex scene.

http://twitchfilm.com/2013/05/destroy-all-monsters-car-sex-and-muscle-memory.html

Well said, Matt Brown.

Goon
Guest

re: Arrested Development: The last one I watched was the GOB episode which I think was ep. 7 which has been my favourite so far. The GOB, second Michael episode and the Tobias episode are the best ones so far, and the Lindsay one is the worst episode of the entire series to date.

I agree with pretty much everything you said Andrew but still find this season to be fine. I did not create the massive expectations others did, knew about the format change a while back and adjusted accordingly that this entire season would be essentially one long puzzle-box episode that may end up thus playing better on rewatch once you see how it fits together. Kind of like how a lot of season 3 plays better once you know the MR F secret.

And I can already see the puzzle-box coming together, so I’m patiently enjoying it. it doesn’t have the immediate gratification the original episodes did but I can’t call myself disappointed either.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I’m still in the middle of Season 2, so I don’t expect to see the new episodes for a while. However, I will say that Ed Helms previously appeared on the show (in season 2 as a matter of fact). I don’t know if it’s the same character.

Goon
Guest

PS Don’t you DARE skip Stories We Tell!

Sean Kelly
Guest

I should note that that Kurt was a few months off when he mentioned when Stories We Tell opened in Canada. The film’s main release was in October, but it had multiple re-releases (including a screening in January for Canada’s Top Ten – which is when I saw it).

Sean Kelly
Guest

I couldn’t really care less about the FAST & FURIOUS series. FAST FIVE was the only film I saw and I really only went more for the cinema it was playing at than the film itself (though I remember kind of liking it). I skipped FURIOUS 6 for THE HANGOVER PART III (a decision I don’t regret, despite the fact that I seem to be the only one I know who liked the film) and I doubt I’ll have the time (or money) to catch up with it.

In a similar fashion, I will be picking AFTER EARTH this weekend instead of NOW YOU SEE ME (even though I’m interested in both). There was a time when I considered M. Night Shyamalan one of my favourite directors and I’m curious if the Will Smith factor can rejuvenate a career that was almost destroyed by the THE LAST AIRBENDER (a film that even I wasn’t the most crazy about). In other words, AFTER EARTH will give me more to write about in my review.

Sean Kelly
Guest

Kurt – I’ll be going to the 7pm opening night screening of THE EAST at the Lightbox when it opens next Friday. You should come along.

Sean Kelly
Guest

To wet your whistle for FRANCES HA, here are my thoughts from the film from TIFF AND a photo of Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig, and (co-star) Mickey Sumner from the Q&A.

http://www.skonmovies.com/2012/09/tiff12-my-thoughts-on-frances-ha.html

rot
Guest

I was there. I am confused, has this come out yet? I am pretty sure it is not out in Toronto. Dying to rewatch (actually watched it twice at the festival).

Courtney Small
Guest

As a long time fan of the Fast & Furious franchise, I agree with Andrew about the film rewarding the loyal fans who are truly attached to these characters. Sure the dialogue in Furious 6 is cheesy but it fits well with what has been established since the very first film. In fact, I actually felt a little sad when Gisele died as I loved the arc with her and Han. Plus, I would rather see Jordana Brewster removed from the series anyways. Regardless, I was happy that the series finally explained why Han is so sullen in most of Tokyo Drift.

Andrew – you need to watch all 15 episodes of Arrested Development, some of the best gags occur in the latter episodes. I rather enjoyed the new format for season 4 overall. I think the series will play much better upon repeat viewing, especially once you know how the puzzle pieces fit together.

In regards to Kurt’s Screening Series, Gymkata has yet to be opened…just saying.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

This is a very good idea. We should do Gymkata in a week or so! You’re invited!

Rick Vance
Guest

So here is the thing everything everyone I have heard say about Furious 6 is accurate. It is melodramatic, it is operatic, it is completely 100 percent sincere, (there is not a bone of irony in this movie) and the action is unbelievably well done.

I would not change an ounce of this movie for I think all those things working on those levels creates the perfect representation of what serialized action storytelling is at its best. To use a reference that some of the people here should get this movie franchise is “Okay, suckers – you’ve taken yer BEST SHOT!” he says. “Now it’s MY turn!” era Claremont/Byrne X-Men

It is the best example of what made Superhero comic do well when they did.

Rick Vance
Guest

I am kinda sad that you have lost your interest in Giant Robots fighting Monsters (which are clearly Lovecraftian in nature hence where they come from and who DelToro poached to design them). That is exactly the kind of movie that belongs in the summer on a huge screen.

What I have learned about myself recently is that film to me is more about the melding of audio and visual in general and script is not something that will give a movie without those other two things working well a pass. I’d rather you tell the movie visually then you tell it in a really nice piece of writing (see also Prometheus).

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I hear you on this RICK, but the poorly voice-over and editing in marketing materials seem to take the fun (for me) out of Pacific Rim. I no longer know where the balance is…

Rick Vance
Guest

See that line you guys both rolled your eyes at is exactly the kind of thing I expected someone to say in a movie about what this one is about.

rot
Guest

Not liking Arsenic and Old Lace, but liking Furious 6… I give up on you Kurt.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Grant seems to draw his entire performance from that expression in the film, even when his character should absolutely know better. It’s the thin line between endearing and tedious.

DavidM
Guest

I tried with all my might, with every sinew, to loathe Fast 2 Furious 5 Part 6, but even as I sat there with tightly folded arms, huffing and rolling my damn eyes it was pummelling me into submission.
I think it works simply because the ridiculous and noisy action set pieces are comprehensible and properly thrilling, and the ridiculous Slab Bulkhead type characters are actually likable. Plus it’s like Justin Lin is the last director who seems to know how big action blockbusters work, and how to film them.
Fast 6 is what the last Expendables and Die Hard movies promised but comprehensively failed to be.

Antho42
Guest

Andrew, why is there Limp Bizkit music playing in this Cinecast episode? I know it douchy to call out people on their musical selection… but Limp Bizkit is punching it, man. Unless you are purposely going for a “brosky” vibe with the Fast 6 episode.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I liked that Limp Bizkit song. Then again, I was teenager when Limp Bizkit were cool.

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