Mamo #279: From the Skyfall Down

SKYFALL! We’re joined by special guest star Fingerless Hobie / Demetre Eliopoulos, straight out of an IMAX screening of the fiftieth anniversary Bond spectacular. Grab your martini and have a seat at our table!

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Chris
Guest

Spoilers or no spoilers?

antho42
Guest

Is there another trilogy that has the 2nd as the weakest entry? Maybe Back in the Future.

Sean Kelly
Guest

I actually like Back to the Future Part 2.

David Brook
Admin

Yeah I prefer Back to the Future 2 to number 3. Although that’s still pretty good.

Goon
Guest

if you only look at the first 3 of a series

Temple of Doom
Die Hard 2
MIB II

Rick Vance
Guest

Temple of Doom destroys Last Crusade.

Matthew Price
Guest

Agreed – TOD is far superior to LC – but I’d completely agree with DH2 and MIB2 being the weakest links. Also, completely disagree with 2T being the low point in LOTR, but only if we use the extended cut. Theatrical 2T is definitely the worst chapter, while the extended is actually the best chapter.

Rick Vance
Guest

I am still more of a fan of the smaller boxed combat in Fellowship over the other two but I do like 2T over King

Kurt
Guest

Agreed on Temple of Doom, Rick. Been saying so for years…nay…decades.

Jericho Slim
Guest

Skyfall started off very good -almost great – for the first hour or so, but dropped off pretty quickly after that. The strong batman vibe – from the score to some of the story points – was very off-putting.

antho42
Guest

How is the Imax experience? I know that it was not film with
Imax cameras.

Kurt
Guest

I shall be seeing this in Lie-Max tonite, I’ll get back to you on how it is…

Andrew James
Admin

SEE it on the biggest screen possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, my review was specific to IMAX.

Andrew James
Admin

The guys in Cinecast also mentioned the JAWS comparison with Bardem. I don’t get that at all. Maybe I’m totally remembering that movie wrong (its been many MANY years), but wasn’t Jaws just a big dumb henchman that could bite through anything? How is Bardem’s character supposed to be emulating the Jaws character in any way? Because his teeth are removable?

Enlighten me.

Jonathan
Admin

I don’t buy that comparison at all either.

Andrew James
Admin

I don’t even completely see the homage factor. The only link is tag word “teeth” – outside of that I don’t see the correlation. But again I may not be remembering it correctly.

Rick Vance
Guest

I forget now who said it but I agree that the Bond franchise is too conservative to hire directors who will really apply a personal stamp. The obvious comparison is a Mission Impossible where that kind of stuff is possible. Which is because the cache of that franchise was much smaller compared to Bond so there was always much less to loose.

antho42
Guest

They should teach this film in screenwriting classes in regards of how to use Chekhov’s gun. I have never seen a film with as many Chekhov’s gun, plot devices as Skyfall.

Gerry
Guest

The main point of using Chekhov’s gun in a screenplay is to streamline the screenplay, but a lean mean fighting machine of a screenplay Skyfall very definately is not.

Since Skyfall was action lite compared to most Bond films and was low budget compared to other Bond films it could’ve done with some of the main subversions of Chekhov’s gun, i.e red herrings, along with plot twists, to make it more interesting.

If you make an action film with reduced action and a severe humour deficiency you need something to replace the action.

As for the ending, SPOILER ALERT, shooting up the car to signify a move to a more modern Bond (which was foreshadowed, as you correctly point out, earlier in the film) and then introducing Moneypenny and M behind his double doors completely undermined that.

I agree with you that a Nolan Bond film would be great. TDKR wasn’t my favourite film of the year but you can’t argue with Nolan’s ability to direct action scenes as all the set pieces in TDKR were awesome.

antho42
Guest

I will like to see Park-chan Wook’s be the director for the next James Bond film. He has style and knows how to direct action. Plus he will a relatively cheap option, in comparison to more well established Hollywood directors.

Having said that, I would not mind a Nolan directed film. I do think he needs to get better at incorporating humor if he wants his film to be in the same ballpark as Casino Royal and Skyfall.

In terms of spy franchises (not including John Le Carre:

James Bond > Bourne > Mission Impossible.

The problem I have with the Mission Impossible series is that Ethan Hunt is terrible, boring character, and this is coming from a pro-Tom Cruise film-goer.

Bourne is great, but it does not have the iconography of James Bond. And perhaps for the better, I do not think Bourne has much of shelf-life in the post-Matt Damon era.

Kurt
Guest

Heh. I’m going to use that phrase, “Post-Matt Damon Era” as often as I can.

Rick Vance
Guest

Tom Cruise is instantly more interesting a protagonist to me than any of the others almost just because he is Tom Cruise, he is a fun guy to watch on film especially in the DePalma one.

For me it goes.

Metal Gear Solid >> The Prisoner > MI >> Bourne > Bond

Dave Nandes
Guest

I have to keep scrolling past this episode on my iPod every day and it’s killing me.

The universe has conspired to keep me from seeing this movie.

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