Mamo #277: From A to Atlas

The Skyfall countdown continues as the TIFF Bell Lightbox opens Bond up in a big way, and half of Mamo reports on the outcome of the six-film Bond vs. Blofeld overnight marathon – a conversation which transitions surprisingly easy into our thoughts on the release of Cloud Atlas, and the battle lines thereto – currently forming in moviegoing circles around the globe.

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Antho42
Guest

I know you hate Film Critic Hulk, Matt Brown, but in his review of Cloud Atlas and analysis of the Bret Easton Ellis and David Foster Wallace debate he makes similar observation:
On DFW: “THOUGH UNPARALLELED GENIUS, HE FOUND SIMPLICITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN’T LIKE IT. THEY FOUND HIS MESSAGES CHEESY AND HOLLOW. AND THE FACT”
“HULK’S OBVIOUS PROBLEM IS THE FOLLOWING: THE WORLD (AND ESPECIALLY THE INTERNET) IS SO MUCH MORE FULL OF B.E.E. THESE
DAYS. NOT THE D.F.W.’S. AND THAT’S WHAT MAKES HIM ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT.”
http://badassdigest.com/2012/10/08/fantastic-fest-review-cloud-atlas-david-foster-wallace-and-the-cinema-of-mo/

Rick Vance
Guest

Can I be on both sides of this mythical divide?

Because I love the movie but at the same time think that praising the fact that it exists or was done at all is as foolish as people who go “Well that could have been utter shit, glad it wasn’t” (Hello Avengers)

Matthew Price
Guest

Complete misinterpretation of what I was saying.

Kurt
Guest

Great MAMO episode, guys! I think I get what Price is saying, it’s kind of where I sit (as a fan of Speed Racer, The Fountain, and yes, very much I HEART Huckabees), I am glad that they tried, but I cannot love it only because of that, hence my negative review. But where I believe that Price is coming from is that we should always be letting filmmakers take chances, even at large budgets to realize the ‘great new narrative ideas’ and the execution of new styles and ways of making cinema. Otherwise it’s sequels, prequels and reboots or safe formula pictures. Sure I wanted the Wachowski’s (and Tykwer) to succeed when I watched it, and I hope they get the chance to knock the next one out of the park.

Cloud Atlas should indeed be “Kurt Candy” as Brown said on the show, but it was the actual failure to capture the humanity WITHIN the story that made the film a chore for me, even as I wanted it to succeed at building a mega-story out of smaller ones. Everything that the film is about I’m on board with, but alas, Cloud Atlas feels like having someone talk for your position in a debate where you feel that they are not quite nailing it in content or style, which makes you rather uncomfortable because you can only sit and watch things unfold knowing you’re on their side, but still rather embarrassed for them.

Now, that i re-read this ramble, it may not shed light on the misinterpretation or not…

Rick Vance
Guest

This is where it gets funny because my interpretation was I think clouded by that paragraph in your extended review of the film that I was reading(and agreeing with) around when I listened.

So the mashing of things is my bad.

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