Cinecast Episode 259 – Grading on Gumption

Welcome to the post Memorial Day episode of the Cinecast. The gang’s all here – some more sober than others. Kurt & Andrew tread lightly around spoilers (hopefully there are none!) for the superb Norwegian thriller, Headhunters. Matt & Andrew talk with major spoilers about Neil Marshall’s episode of Game of Thrones. Kurt & Matt have a spirited debate about the merits of Lynne Ramsay’s We Need To Talk About Kevin. And all three remember fondly the early aughties sitcom, Arrested Development. Gamble also weighs in on Barry Sonnenfeld’s Men In Black 3. Furthermore, it’s FINALS week, so there is a three part homework assignment: Easy Question, Essay Question and Bonus Question. There is a lotta love for Sneakers, Aardman’s Studio’s Pirates!, off the beaten path Sam Raimi trash cinema.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


 
 

 

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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
– Personal thank yous
– Time tracks
– Mobile App/Grosses Contest updated
– Andrew on gmanReviews Movies You Love series (A Clockwork Orange)
– Aliens Quad (Blu-ray) ON SALE!
– Kurt’s “Watch this Instead” video for Moonrise Kingdom via TheSubstream.com


MAIN REVIEWS:
Headhunters


GRADING HOMEWORK:

David Brook: Braveheart
Miran Terzic: The Celebration, Late Marriage, Scenes from a Marriage
Rick Vance: Rushmore
Robert Reineke: The Thin Man
Sean Kelly (LetterBoxd): Wedding Crashers, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Courtney Small: About a Boy
Len Fearnside (aka Keith Talent): The Bad Sleep Well
Nat Almirall (LetterBoxd:) A Serious Man, Inherit the Wind
Lennart Andersson: Four Weddings And A Funeral
Dick Japowski: Independence Day
Darryl Bowen: Tomcats
Steven Beckley: Wings of Desire

full list on LetterBoxd
full GPA spreadsheet for this semester


ANOTHER REVIEW:
Men in Back 3


THE WATCH LIST:

Andrew
– “Game of Thrones”
– “Arrested Development”

Kurt
The Pirates! Band of Misfits

Matt
– “Game of Thrones”
Sneakers
Easy Wheels
We Need to Talk About Kevin


DVDs/NETFLIX INSTANT NOW AVAILABLE:
Jandy’s DVD Triage


HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT:

It’s finals week! So we have a three part question for you. Each part is worth TEN POINTS EACH:

1) In honor of MiB hitting the trilogy mark, what is your best example of an on screen duo?
2) In FIVE sentences, what is the movie that made you love movies?
3) In the RowThree Cinecast movie, what actor (or actress) portrays Andrew, Kurt and Matt? And for extra credit, who is the director and why?

Please mail all answers to Andrew James by the afternoon of
Wednesday, June 6


NEXT WEEK:
Snow White and the Huntsman
Bernie


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Leave your thoughts in the comment section below, or email us:
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andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com

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Rick Vance
Guest

Oh I was totally unclear in my email, but ‘song in the title’ was referring to the title of the email.

These are three:

Making Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ud2BywS_3U

Nothin’ in the World Can Stop Me Worryin’ ‘Bout That Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn68zL6nukk

A Quick One While He’s Away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRpie9ta-Ao

Nat Almirall
Guest

@Andrew You mentioned that your friend was Jewish when you were giving out the homework assignments.

Rick Vance
Guest

Does Question #2 have to be a movie? Because I have a great example that is a TV show but it is very movie related.

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

Kudos to Robert Reineke for choosing The Thin Man. šŸ™‚ Nick and Nora are probably my all-time favorite on-screen married couple.

ultimolee
Guest

You haven’t seen Festen/The Celebration???

The first and best Dogme film, get it watched it’s incredible.

KeithTalent
Guest

Festen/The Celebration is freaking amazing. One of my favourite movies of all time. It was my second choice for the homework behind The Bad Sleep Well, both of which are wildly inappropriate for Andrew’s purpose to be perfectly honest. I’m ok with being chaff though; I’ll take that C+ like a champ. It’s like high school all over again.

antho42
Guest

I disagree with you two, Andrew and Kurt. I am seeing Prometheus in 3D. The early reaction is that the 3D is mind-blowing, even with people that are in the anti-3D camp (i.e., Devin Faraci).

I no longer trust Ridley Scott as a filmmaker, but I still trust him when it comes to handling the technical aspects of his films.

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

3D is always mind-blowing for me, in the sense that it always gives me a massive three-day headache.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

I’m very picky choosy about the films I take the 3D plunge with and I’m actually more interested about seeing Spider-Man in 3D than Prometheus.

antho42
Guest

This is my last test when it comes to 3D. If Ridley Scott cannot make 3D worthwhile, than the technology is not for me.

DavidM
Guest

I saw Prometheus last night and I’m no fan of 3D at all, but it actually worked for me in this. I suppose it helps that there’s a lot of catacombs and things, which help with the whole depth of field thing. But even overall Ridley Scott knows exactly how to use it and make it work – even moreso than James Cameron with Avatar, I’d say.

I still want 3D to just go away, because even the films where it doesn’t muddies everything are so few and far between that it just isn’t worth it as an ongoing cinematic thing.

But, yeah, never thought I would say this but Prometheus needs to be seen in 3D, in my opinion.

Good film, too. Not that anyone should care but I scribbled some immediate thoughts right after getting in from the midnight screening on my Letterboxd page:
http://letterboxd.com/davidm2000ad/film/prometheus/

God knows how that reads now, but, generally speaking it’s going to be another Ridley film that will be accused of being style over content – even though, content wise, it attempts to ask some Big Questions. Which it then fails to answer. It flounders with all the Chariots of the Gods guff, but I enjoyed it as a big, atmospheric, occasionally over-reaching sci-fi.

Bowenarrow
Guest

So I was a little angry with my grade and decided to re-watch Tomcats 8 or so years after seeing it the first time to defend my answer. Perhaps I should of watched it again before throwing it out there for the homework. You were right, it’s a piece of shit and has nothing to do with the question. At least a response to my answer became the title of the episode though, so at least there’s that.

Bowenarrow
Guest

By the way, thanks to Matt for trying to defend me. šŸ™‚ Also I agree with you 100% about We Need To Talk About Kevin.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

It’s a major score to get a Cinecast Showtitle.

WAVE THAT FLAG, and own it, Bowenarrow!

Matt Gamble
Guest

After watching the film I am making a bold call, Snow White & the Huntsman will be Halfyard’s favorite film of the summer!

Kurt
Guest

I highly, highly, highly doubt it.

Matt Gamble
Guest

I’m actually being semi-serious. Its the kind of film you latch onto and talk into the ground.

Jericho Slim
Guest

I think it’s even money on Kurt liking it. (‘Lockout’ threw me!) I enjoyed it quite a bit, though. I thought it was very good, but missed a chance to be a great movie.

I gave Mirror Mirror and Huntsman the same grade. I do like Theron’s performance better than Roberts, even though they really aren’t comparable.

Kurt
Guest

Well, I think I’ve been convinced to check out Bella and Thor vs. Charlize tonite. Thanks guys for the betting pool!

aha!

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

What a MUSHY MISHMASH OF MEDIOCRITY. Sad to say, I loathed Snow White and the Huntsman, it was tedious dreck that really, really wastes all that ‘dwarf-talent’: Winstone, McShane, Marsan, Jones, Hoskins, Oh My! There were some excellent character actors saddled with little to do beyond platitudes and wishy-washy comedy…that was sad.

And what was this marketing of ‘This ain’t a fairy tale’ -> Um, actually, it was thru and thru, and a middling one at that.

If you are aiming for more realisim, or more brutality, you’ve actually got to follow that thru….This movie backs down, dare I say, pussies out, at every single turn.

What a complete waste of time.

Goon
Guest

I should hope so. It’s the worst film I have seen all year. If I ran a paper, I’d fire any critic who gave it a pass, because they are clearly unqualified for their job.

Antho42
Guest

Says the guy that champions X men 3.

Goon
Guest

Retorts the guy who only posts on R3 to attack me, and otherwise never puts his neck out to discuss anything else.

Come at me again when you have something substantial to say about anything.

Goon
Guest

Troll.

Jonathan
Guest

Play nice, boys.

Goon
Guest

I’ll just lay this out there. I’ve never instigated a fight with antho at any time ever, but have to look forward to a hit-and-run attack when I lay my opinion out on anything, whether he’s seen it or not.

If I’m against the grain, I’m Armand White. If I’m with the grain, which judging by Snow White’s reviews I am, I’ll get hit anyways with a “Yeah but you liked this other thing which is not popular” and blah.

I’ll give back as good as he gives, and will otherwise ignore his posts, as I have done for some time.

antho42
Guest

“If I ran a paper, Iā€™d fire any critic who gave it a pass, because they are clearly unqualified for their job.”
I have a problem with this statement. Almost every critic and blogger champions at least on film that goes against the grain even if it means losing ” credibility” in the film community. Goon champions X3; Kurt champions Southland Tales and Aeon Flux; Rot champions Snow White and the Huntsmen: Andrew James and I champion Skyline. I does not follow that these people do not have taste, or that their analysis of film is invalid, and thus, should be ignored.

Your statement is very similar to the Rotten tomatoes commentators that critique review simply for going against the grain, especially regarding comic fanboy properties. A notable example of this was when Samuel L. Jackson openly question AO Scott”s credibility as a critic simply for not liking the Avengers. To me, this is one of worst aspects of the film community in the internet.

Goon
Guest

…so in other words, you took a quick and easy joke-jab and took it seriously and got offended.

Moving on…

Nat Almirall
Guest

I think Kurt gets an automatic pass on taste for the next week due to his mentioning of Blackadder — “The Black Seal,” “Bells,” “Beer,” “Dish and Dishonesty,” “Ink and Incapability,” “Sense and Senility,” “Private Plane,” “General Hospital,” “Goodbyeeee,” and “Blackadder’s Christmas Carol” represent some of the finest minutes of comedy ever put on any screen. The Archbishop episode from the first season is right up there, too. And “The Witchsmeller Pursuivant.”

Kurt
Guest

Well, my daughter is named Miranda, possibly after Miranda Richardson, albeit, I hope that she doesn’t quite grow up to be Queeny from Blackadder, the mom from SPIDER, or Queen Mab from Merlin.

Also, I should note that I’m very happy that HOUSE M.D. finally wrapped up, so Hugh Laurie can go back to the type of foppishness that was so exemplary in his Blackadder appearances.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Not to mention Lady van Tassel from Sleepy Hollow!

And yeah, we need more of this Hugh Laurie. One of the few people who can hold their own with Stephen Fry.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

We are big fans of A Bit of Fry and Laurie and Jeeves & Wooster in our household.

Oh, and on the Richardson as Villain, she does good vocal work in Ardman’s Chicken Run as the wicked Ms. Tweedy! Love how versatile she is as an actress (Also, crazy Senator’s Wife and Surveillance Queen in SOUTHLAND TALES)

Nat Almirall
Guest

I wasn’t a big fan of Jeeves and Wooster — I think Wodehouse is something that doesn’t translate as well in adaptations.

Speaking of Ardman, I just saw The Pirates! based on your recommendation, and Richardson would have been great as Victoria — though the inclusion of The Clash and Desmond Dekkar on the soundtrack, as well as anything to do with the map sequences, was brilliant enough.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

Haven’t listened yet (was away from home all day), but I do want to comment that I wasn’t too surprised that my homework submission didn’t get a good grade (which I saw on Letterboxd).

The question stumped me a little bit and I almost considered sitting out this week. However, since I was one of the only two people to participate in every homework submission, I decided to send the only thing that came to mind, even though I wasn’t super-confident about it.

I hope to do much better for the final.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

I went to see Piranha 3DD because I thought that the first one was a fun, campy gorefest.

This one wasn’t (other than David Hasselhoff’s big moment).

Jericho Slim
Guest

Weekend theater movie trailer roundup: Savages looks like poo, Spidey looks promising, and Total Recall is up in the air. Most importantly, though, I’ve still been able to avoid all Prometheus trailers. It better be worth it.

Jericho Slim
Guest

OK, Kurt – now I am expecting an article ripping SW&H apart. šŸ˜‰

I don’t think its a coincidence that the 2 biggest ‘Mirror Mirror” boosters hated SW. I don’t necessarily think that comparison to MM directly caused the hate – though that is possible, and a little bleedover is probably unavoidable. I think it’s more likely just a shared taste with this genre.

Or it could be that Kurt and Goon are “right”, since SW is below 50%.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I’d love to give you that article, Jericho, but the film is so inconsequentially forgettable, 90% of it has slipped from my brain.

Goon
Guest

Lily Collins is Snow White, Kristen Stewart is Emo Shite šŸ™‚

Jim Laczkowski
Guest

Anytime anyone mentions either Midnight Run or Sneakers, I immediately perk up with glee.

“Hi, my name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport. Verify Me.”

I think along with Groundhog Day, it might be very possible that I know this movie by heart. It’s one of those movies I saw as a kid over and over, and loved all the more each and every time. The cast in this is not only having a blast, but they take the material very seriously. It’s a perfect mix of comedy, drama, conspiracy thriller / spy espionage. You’re right Matt, they really don’t make movies like this anymore with a cast this pitch-perfect. Ocean’s 11 is definitely a great comparison though.

“Too many secrets.”

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