Cinecast Episode 258 – Walking on a Cloud of Elation

Welcome to the summer doldrums at the multipex. While there is not a lot out there getting Andrew and Kurt fired up for Hollywood product, so instead they just casually converse for a while about why this is so. Kurt offers a sneak-preview of Moonrise Kingdom and talks nuts-and-bolts details (there are plenty!) without spoilers. Gamble joins midway through the episode to chime in on The Dictator and Dark Shadows before we get to perhaps the best offering of homework from the listeners. As this semester comes to a close both the regulars and a fair number of newbies demonstrate just how good they’re getting at this! In an act that is equal parts surly and typically aggressive, Gamble decides to grade the homework really tough. The watchlist offers some classic Hitchcock, a re-evaluation of Primer and Shane Carruth, Anti-RomComs, and a couple of excellent books that somebody should take a crack at adapting into films. Andrew offers a bit of a personal (and oddball) homework assignment to close out another marathon episode folks, I hope you are all up to the challenge.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


 
 

 

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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
– Kurt on The Documentary Blog Podcast
– Happy Birthday to Adam Lopez!


SNEAK REVIEWS:
Moonrise Kingdom


THE WATCH LIST:

Andrew
The Salton Sea
Good Night and Good Luck
Primer

Kurt
Shadow of a Doubt
Jeux d’enfants (Love Me if You Dare)
“Fifth Business” (book)
“The City and The City” (book)

Matt
Dark Shadows
The Dictator


GRADING HOMEWORK: (LetterBoxd list)
Sean Kelly (LetterBoxd): A Prairie Home Companion
Miran Terzic: Possesion
Courtney Small (LetterBoxd) Fritz the Cat and Baraka
Robert Reineke: Time Bandits
Rick Vance: Wild Zero and “The Shadow Line”
Ian Loring: Kill List and Silence of the Lambs
Nat Almirall (LetterBoxd:) Taboo and Soul Sistas
Darryl Bowen: Phase IV, Joe’s Apartment, Frankenhooker, Doggy Poo
Jane Dixon: The Forbidden Zone (1982) (not to be confused with Space Hunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone in 3D)
Jay Cheel: Garbage Pail Kids
Lennart Andersson: Southland Tales
Dick Japowski: Leonard part 6
Hans Bjerva: Run Lola Run
Ryan McNeil: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Steven Beckley: Fantastic Planet
Jericho Slim: Beverly Hills Cop, 48 Hours, Rocky IV
Mark V: The Hour-glass Sanatorium
Pete Mahoney: Vomit Gore Trilogy

full list on LetterBoxd
full GPA spreadsheet for this semester


DVDs/NETFLIX INSTANT NOW AVAILABLE:
Jandy’s DVD Triage


HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT:
send us your best example of a film to inspire ideas for Andrew to write a wedding speech (in Church, not reception.)


OTHER STUFF MENTIONED:
Jay Cheel’s article on Genre Docs


NEXT WEEK:
Bernie
Headhunters
Men in Black


PRIVATE COMMENTS or QUESTIONS?
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feedback@rowthree.com (general)
andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com

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Rick Vance
Guest

I am glad, I forgot exactly what was in those WZ keywords and they manage to completely avoid the two best moments in the movie. Yes there is more craziness hidden underneath.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Pretty much total agreement with Kurt on Moonrise — though it took me a bit longer to really, really like it (granted I just saw it last night). It felt like Anderson’s shortest film, but I was surprised to find it’s only a minute longer than Bottle Rocket and Rushmore.

And, in the interest of pedantry, I believe there’s also some selections of Saint-Saëns on the soundtrack as well.

Hopefully will get my review up tomorrow.

Robert Reineke
Guest

You know Matt, people wouldn’t submit homework of a movie you recently watched if you updated your Letterboxd log regularly.

Helpfully yours.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Do I need to hold your hand while you submit your selection as well?

Robert Reineke
Guest

If you don’t have too much else going on. Might as well make it as much like the Canadian school system as possible.

Kurt
Guest

This is pretty much accurate.

Rick Vance
Guest

I am going to restate the point I made about Primer on letterbox and agree wholeheartedly with Kurt.

The intended goal of Primer is to make you question every action and word out of the main characters mouths after the point in which Time Travel is revealed and you learn for the first time what is playing on his tape player. It is all about the meaning and implication of every scene and conversation.

The time travel isn’t emphasized because it isn’t really what the movie is about.

It is kinda like the original Terminator in that way, in which it drops you into this insanity and it may catch you up or it may not. Terminator chooses the former and has the BEST exposition scene in movies because it takes place during a car chase.

Also on the Inception side, I think the exposition in that movie is part of the genre the film really is. It is a heist movie and no one seems to get on the Ocean’s movies for their exposition of the same mundane details of setting up heists. The way to do those movies without Inception is Le Cercle Rouge but I don’t expect that from all heist movies. People get caught up in the concepts, fighting on the ceiling and the settings and loose that the movie is still fundamentally a heist film. It also really shows how much Nolan owes to Woo & Mann.

rot
Guest

Jesus, a lot of the same problems going around R3. I was also in the hospital last week because my wife had gallstones, my mom has Fibromyalgia, and last year I had an ulcer! Not to mention I am competing with Kurt on who has the worse back problems. Upper neck pain again after a month reprieve from a massage.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Aren’t we a sad bunch, eh? I should probably get a massage to fix my shoulder, but I have issues with people touching me:

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

I’m a member of the minority that actually liked DARK SHADOWS in the end. Even then, I’d agree that it’s not Burton’s best.

I saw SHADOW OF A DOUBT a few years ago in one of my film classes. It was a pretty good film.

Also, BERNIE has only been playing for a week in Toronto, so Kurt shouldn’t threat too much about not seeing it yet.

Goon
Guest

Everyone not seeing Bernie should be sweating about not seeing it yet.

Kurt
Guest

I will endeavour to catch this this weekend.

Kurt
Guest

But I must say it’s rather crazy that this only has one goram Screen in the entire Greater Toronto Area.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

That’s limited release for you. Kind of says a lot about Richard Linklater’s box office clout these days.

ultimolee
Guest

Great to hear you’ve watched Shadow of a Doubt Kurt, yet another Hitchcock masterpiece also Hichcock’s favourite of his own films.

Suprised you didn’t mention the dinner conversation between Charlotte’s father and Hume Cronyn, plotting the perfect murder while the family try to have dinner. One of my favourite scenes

Speaking of underseen Hitchcock, Have you seen Marnie? another ahead of it’s time.

Watching Possession completely straight is enough to make you go loopy, watching as high as a kite will probably put Matt in the Funny farm.

Oh and it’s pronounced Andre Zulavski from what i know.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Hume Cronyn is pretty fun in the movie, but I must admit that Charlie’s dad and a very young Hume Cronyn (with flour in his hair for grey?) murder-plotting-as-hobby stuff felt a little forced, IMO.

MAHONEY
Guest

“but I must admit that Charlie’s dad and a very young Hume Cronyn (with flour in his hair for grey?) murder-plotting-as-hobby stuff felt a little forced, IMO”

I agree .. Love the film, but it’s a little overwraught and contains a tad too much hand-wringing for my liking … But thise scenes (as fun as they are) do seem less than subtle.

But it’s not an anomoly for Hitch, a few of his characters are obsessed with killing and the methods of killing, and actually talk to each other about it … ROPE is riddled with it isn’t it?

Another scene that springs to mind is Farley Granger nearly strangling Norma Varden’s (?) society lady (in PUBLIC no less) as they discuss murder.

I’ve no idea what my point is …

Kurt
Guest

Yes, you are correct regarding ROPE and lots of murder-minutiae dialogue! However, it is entirely the point of that film, so it’s not only forgivable, but kinda necessary!

MAHONEY
Guest

I wouldn’t say it’s the point of the film (I’d suggest ROPE is more about sexual manipulation, and twisted/sly look at social Mores).

As is the case with Shadow Of A Doubt – It’s less about murder and more like a proto-Lynch … In the sense that Hitch is FAR more interested that revealing the dark seedy underbelly of the cliched, white-picket fence, oh-so-pure middle class America.

I will however, concede that it’s the murderers in ROPE that talk about committing the act .. as such, it makes FAR more sense.

Rick Vance
Guest

Oh and Kurt China Miéville has written comics, he is writing an ongoing for DC at this very moment. His style at least from that is to me a watered down Grant Morrison or Peter Milligan and kinda forgettable now, he would have fit in better in the early 90s.

MAHONEY
Guest

C … !!??

It’s the highest grade I’ve ever had. Thanks Matt, you’re beyond kind.

Do I get a prize for coming last?

Kurt
Guest

I’ve got an unopened copy of the Director’s Cut of Donnie Darko, if you want a booby prize!

Seriously, though, everyone will be entered in a draw based on home-work entries (regardless of grade) for a second prize, so yes, if you’ve never submitted a homework assignment thus far, or have been doing middling on the grading, keep sending ’em in, as you could walk away with a BluRay or something… (and there will be no INXS on the soundtrack…)

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

Speaking of Donnie Darko, I plan on upgrading to blu-ray sometime in near future (the blu-ray is smart enough to have BOTH versions on one disc)

MAHONEY
Guest

I’m not entering for the last one, I don’t wanna lose my last place … I’m oddly proud of my position.

Unless Andrew promises to deduct points from my current score, no matter what he thinks of my entry?

Maybe I should suggest something even more obscure, that takes SEVEN clicks to find this time?

Honestly, Matt’ll moan at the drop of a hat wont he? I thought it was his knee that was sore … Not the finger he uses for his mouse!!

Kurt
Guest

Classic Gamble. SURLY and ABRASIVE (and now, apparently, LAZY)

MAHONEY
Guest

“SURLY and ABRASIVE (and now, apparently, LAZY)”

I do believe that’s the name of Matt’s new Swing-Jazz album.

Matt Gamble
Guest

I like how its on me when the Welshman recommended I watch vomit porn.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Scratch that, buy 3 films of vomit porn.

MAHONEY
Guest

I think you mean Vomit “art”?

Besides … If you’re gunna get angry every time I suggest you waste your time and money on possibly offensive and pointless ventures, then I suggest you fire me as your manager.

And for the FIFTIETH time … I’m not Wel..

Y’know what? … Forget it. I’ll be Welsh.

KeithTalent
Guest

Salton Sea is awesome. For some reason it kind of reminds me of Rules of Attraction and even Domino a bit, but I like Salton the best of those three. That discussion of Goldberg’s drug fantasy heist was enough to have me laughing. Love that sequence. Fun movie.

Also, Matt was right, Dark Shadows was awful. What a waste of my time and money.

Great show.