Cinecast Episode 248 – Frog Dog

A lengthy show today as Kurt and Andrew spend far too much time talking Oscar, not so much who won what, but the details of the TV Broadcast, the nature of award shows and the aging of Billy Crystal. We grade homework assignments, and it is pretty “A”s all around as the listener-ship turns in some fine examples of ‘adult animation.’ Kurt talks about the major face-lift of Toronto’s venerable Bloor Cinema. Gamble pops in to discuss the much lauded Indonesian action film, The Raid. He also offers a mostly positive review of John Carter of Mars, which leads to all sorts of tangents, particularly on the woeful marketing that Disney has done for the film as well as the films long and storied production history. The Watchlist sees everything from extended onscreen equine-death and flying dog-dragons to poliziotteschi to headhunting natives to Korean exercises in style to Jodie Foster busting heads to an Algerian ‘best-teacher-ever’ Oscar nominee to Cate Blanchett modelling period costumes in the boddice-ripping period epic, The Golden Age. Either fast-forward or stay all the way to the end whereupon Gamble lays on one of the strangest homework assignments yet. One that is predicated on the strange and unusual neighbor that is seemingly taunting Gamble with strange goings on. It’s a doozy.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


 
 

 

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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
– Episode 250 Clip Show


OSCAR RE-CAP:
Billy Crytal, classic Hollywood, awesome title cards, Christopher Guest crew, love of movies montage, classic quotes montage, great speeches of yesteryear, where are the big stars?, Penelope Cruz


GRADING HOMEWORK: (LetterBoxd list)
Jericho Slim: Secret of NIMH, Nightmare Before Christmas, Kill Bill Vol 1
Hans Bjerva: Free Jimmy, Grave of the Fireflies, Watership Down
Nat Almirall (LetterBoxd:) The Adventures of Mark Twain (clip)
Swing You Sinners! (1930), Bimbo’s Initiation (1931)
Courtney Small: Barefoot Gen
Sean Kelly (LetterBoxd): 9
9 short film
Ryan McNeil: Alois Nebel
Rick Vance: Cowboy Bebop
Cameron Rice: The Plague Dogs
Lennart Andersson: Waltz With Bashir, A Scanner Darkly
Darryl Bowen: The Last Unicorn
Miran Terzic: 5 Centimetres Per Second
Paul Field: Animal Farm
Kurt: Princess, Blood Tea and Red String
Andrew: Mary and Max
Benji: Animatrix short films: Renaissance I+II


MAIN REVIEW:
The Raid


SNEAK PEEK REVIEW:
John Carter


THE WATCH LIST:

Andrew
Caliber 9
Caxambu
The Brave One
Elizabeth: The Golden Age

Kurt
The Neverending Story
Robot Jox
Lady Terminator
Nowhere to Hide
Monsieur Lazhar


DVDs/NETFLIX INSTANT NOW AVAILABLE:
Jandy’s DVD Triage


HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT:
What film is happening in real life inside the home of Matt’s next door neighbor?


OTHER STUFF MENTIONED:
Bloor renovation post


NEXT WEEK:
The Lorax
Coriolanus
Project X


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Rick Vance
Guest

Is that the longest episode to date?

Kurt Halfyard
Admin
Jim Laczkowski
Guest

4:20. Hmmm. I wonder what you guys were smoking 🙂

Goon
Guest

4 hours. JESUS.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Keep in mind, the HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT segment we’ve been doing has been so well received resulting in an additional 45 minutes of show.

If you skipped hour of Oscar stuff, the show is back at a ‘reasonable’ (it’s all relative) length. Usually we break that segment out into its own show. this year we didnt.

CS
Guest

Considering my office closes early on Fridays, 4 hours is the perfect length. No complaints here!

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

Because I often listen to the podcast in blocks, I started listening around noon yesterday and didn’t wrap it up until just before 8:30 😛

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Glad to fill in your free minutes, Sean!

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Underscoring the tired and trite THE DICTATOR and Sasha Baron Cohen schtick, the writer/actor just signed a three picture deal with Paramount today. So, as per usual, whatthehelldoweknow!!!?

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

Even though THE DICTATOR is done is the same style as BORAT and BRUNO (and has the same director), major suspention of disbelief is going to be needed in a film that features Ben Kingsley (!!!) as The Dictator’s aide (he’s clearly seen in the trailer)

Nat Almirall
Guest

The shorts are from Max Fleischer, not Disney. And regarding Bluth, just look at his filmography from 1991 onward — Rock-A-Doodle, Thumbelina, A Troll in Central Park, The Pebble and the Penguin — chock full of butt.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I liked Titan A.E., Bluth’s Last Hurrah.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Never saw it. I probably should have mentioned Sita Sings the Blues, too, and the whole thing’s up on the YouTube.

And I’m still not sure what the homework assignment is for next week.

Kurt
Guest

There are a few SITA reviews in the R3 archives.

Weird as it sounds, but the kiddies have seen SITA SINGS THE BLUES about 20 times, mainly because it is one of the three films that sits on my wife iPod and the kids usually watch things when we go on those Three Hour Drives to Haliburton, Ontario.

(fyi, the three films are The Princess Bride, My Neighbor Totoro, Sita Sings the Blues)

Nat Almirall
Guest

That’s good company — I’m looking forward to the day when the homework assignment is “Movie That Will Traumatize Kurt’s Brood.”

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

If Wikipedia is to be believed, Don Bluth is apparently working on a new film entitled SANTA CLAUS’ FORGETFUL VILLAGE, set for release in 2014.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Quick: Can you spot GAMBLE in this scene?

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Also, this is amusingly well done:

Jericho Slim
Guest

OCCUPY CINECAST!! Fellas, I’m looking forward to this long ass show, but I have a bone to pick with you. We need full length spoiler reviews of A Separation and We Need to Talk about Kevin. The 99% wants to know what you think so that we can rip your opinions to shreds. Now, I apologize if you’ve already done this, and I just forgot; but I don’t think that’s the case.

Please don’t make me stage a protest.

Kurt
Guest

Not us, but I did a full length dicussion on We Need To Talk About Kevin on the Director’s Club Podcast (The Hal Hartley episode) and that was the week were Andrew & I skipped an episode.

Andrew has seen A Separation, I think he was waiting for me to catch up with it, which shamefully, I have not. It’ll come up over the next few weeks, I’m sure.

Jim Laczkowski
Guest

My co-host Patrick and I were both mixed on ‘Kevin’ but loved ‘A Separation.’ You can listen to Kurt’s defense here:

http://directorsclubpodcast.com/post/14601890742/episode26

Although it’s not chock-full of spoilers.

Rick Vance
Guest

So what is the verdict on using TV related things for Homework?

Kurt
Guest

We don’t mark according to State/Provincial standards. If you amuse us, or tickle our fancy, we give out good grades.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

The only documentary festival, other than Hot Docs, I can think of is the International Documentary Festival in Amsterdam (which I believe is a big one) – http://www.idfa.nl

David Brook
Guest

There’s a popular one in Sheffield in the UK: http://sheffdocfest.com/

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

CPH:DOX is a big one in Denmark.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

Some Additional Notes on 9:
I happened to be browsing discount blu-rays on the weekend and saw 9 going for $12.99 (Canadian), so I bought and re-watched it. One thing I noticed, is that the first 5 minutes of the film (which, like the short, is completely silent, minus some narration) is REALLY dark, as in we see a shot of a dead woman and her child in a car.

Also for Kurt, here’s a Cole’s Notes version of how the short was adapted into a feature (some SPOILERS):
– All 9 ragdolls are featured in the film, with the short only having 2 (there’s a great voicecast BTW, which includes Elijah Wood, Jennifer Connolly, John C. Reily, and Christopher Plummer)
– The robot beast in the short is one of many such robots that attack the ragdolls in the film. They are created by a head robot with a HAL-1000 eye.
– The ending of both the short and the film are nearly exactly the same (expect the film has more survivors).

One last note, while the short was indeed Nominated for an Oscar, it lost to “The Moon and the Son: An Imagined Conversation”

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

LOL! It’s very funny that there’s almost no pause between “I’m taking a break” and “we’re back.”

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

A George Miller directed The Neverending Story II, but it’s not THE George Miller – http://imdb.to/AFvP2T

Anyhow, here’s a trailer for The Neverending Story III, which I’m sure will probably convince Kurt NEVER to see the film. – http://youtu.be/otYpOPVhXw8

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

If that trailer doesn’t do it, this clip of the Rock Biter singing “Born to the Wild” probably will – http://youtu.be/kp7aOzkAWr4

Rick Vance
Guest

Something I forgot to mention about Bebop in the email.

Some of the best damn opening credits ever.

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Rick Vance
Guest
David Brook
Guest

The theme tune has been my ring tone for years. It was a very happy day when the first person finally recognised it. 🙂

I love Cowboy Bebop, but agree with Antho (below) about the film. It’s not as good as the series. I think I preferred the more fun episodes of the series where the film was much more serious.

Robert Reineke
Guest

It’s good to hear good things about John Carter. Too bad Disney dropped the marketing ball.

I consider myself a pretty hardcore geek, but I’ve never read any of the books although I am familiar with the premise. DC Comics even has their own variation on John Carter with Adam Strange which might be more familiar to the geek crowd. And, Alan Moore used John Carter in the second volume of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, with Carter somewhat instigating H.G. Wells War of the Worlds by kicking the bad martians off of Mars. That’s about the extent of my knowledge and I have a feeling that the vast majority of the population doesn’t even know that much. That’s part of what a marketing campaign is supposed to do.

Antho42
Guest

Don’t watch Cowboy Bebop the movie. It is pretty much a long episode. Futhermore, it has the Serenety syndrome: it is better to watch the series first. The series is only around 12 hours long. The series is way better than the film.

Rick Vance
Guest

I don’t see the Serenity comparison. Especially because the Bebop movie is just another adventure with the characters where as Serenity is a plot follow up to Firefly.

The Bebop movie is more in the universe which is of the same quality of the show where as Serenity to me had an air of importance that didn’t work well.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Serenity feels rushed and over-stuffed in the plot department, but the character beats and overall dialogue (not to mention the occasional cinematic flourish) make it very much worth-while. I’d say on the whole, Serenity as a film is superior to any single-episode of Firefly, but yea, compared to the 12 episode run, it’s not as languid…

Matt Brown
Admin

“Serenity is a GOD DAMNED MASTERPIECE and anyone who says otherwise can suck donkey goat balls and eat smelly cheeses and SHUT THE FUCK UP” – internet comment

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

“Hey! I wholeheartedly adore Serenity. But I’m not unaware of a few of its flaws. They do not make the film any less lovable.” – kurt’s comment

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

That reminds me that I should probably return to watching Firefly, then Serenity, on Netflix (I’m only 3 episodes in)

Rick Vance
Guest

Well yeah I like the movie a lot in places I just meant that the Bebop movie is a great one off thing to show someone to give them the tone of the series. Where I think Serenity only actually works if you have watched Firefly.

At least it only worked after I had seen Firefly (I got introduced to it backwards)

antho42
Guest

I will rather re-watch Dazed and Confused than go to the theater to watch Project X. Project X looks awful.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

The reviews are overwhelmingly negative, and the criticisms are legion. Coming from producer Todd-Fucking-Phillips, this is not surprising in the slightest.

Apparently, the film is one long Up-Skirt Youtube clip. Yikes.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Guest

Even though the trailer looks very juvenile and I might end up hating the film, my main film pick for this weekend in TIM AND ERIC’S BILLION DOLLAR MOVIE, which I’m going to see tonight at the Bell Lightbox.

I might also go to the Cumberland tomorrow to see UNDEFEATED fresh off its Oscar win.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Just saw Project X and loved it. You could take Ebert’s review of La Dolche Vita, replace it with this title, and get a good description of the film — different generations will have different reactions to it.

It doesn’t try to shoehorn in any stupid drama or try to sympathize with the kids; they’re just idiots with no sense of responsibility or consequences. Instead, it simply watches a party get bat-shit out of control. With tittites. And of course a midget gets put in the oven.

And Tim and Eric’s Billion-Dollar Movie sucks, though I do love their show.

bowenarrow
Guest

John Carter (of Mars) really was enjoyable, but there are some major problems with the movie like understanding a major plot point. What the hell are the bald guys trying to do?

bowenarrow
Guest

by the way I saw it in 3D, which was a waste of time. At least it was a free screening

Rick Vance
Guest

The only suggestions I have for a clip show are.

The Scott Pilgrim talk (which is the best Kurt thinks movies are taking place in the heads of main characters moment)

and just getting a clip of Matt saying ‘no’ or ‘you’re wrong’ with extreme disdain to pepper through the episode at random intervals.

Schizopolis
Guest

Just finished Caliber 9 on Netflix. I thought it was okay. So far my least favorite of the 70s Italian crime flicks in Netflix (keep in mind, they’re all dubbed). I’ll definitely still watch the other two Di Leo films of the trilogy.

From that genre, I really enjoyed Street Law (w/ Franco Nero) and Live Like A Cop, Die Like A Man. Both streaming on Netflix. Both movies are action-packed and really hammer home its themes about masculinity in an unintentionally (or intentionally) comical way.

Street Law is a revenge film. In the movie, Nero’s character doesn’t lose a loved one or get physically maimed. His reason for vengeance is that he lost his manhood. Great music and lots of fun slow-mo action sequences.

In Live Like a Cop, Die Like a Man, the two detectives are pretty boys that don’t drive a muscle car like Starzky & Hutch. They ride around together back to back on a motorcycle. They live together, eat together, beat women together and fight crime together. They do everything together except have threesomes. At least so they say after the captain’s secretary suggests it. There’s no real plot. Just excuses for action set-pieces. This is the most homo-erotic action movie I’ve ever seen, which I think must’ve been intended by the director. I’m also convinced this movie inspired Michael Bay to make Bad Boys.

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