Cinecast Episode 240 – The Odds on End of Times are 50/50

Welcome to the Cinecast version of the recap of 2011. We’ve got the obligatory top tens to get to, but first we rehash some of the trends of the year. From the 1980’s to evil cults, it’s all in here. Things get heated sometimes, after Andrew outs the unspoken rule about not nitpicking (or outright bashing) Top 10 picks, it becomes a sport. Most of the time, however, it is in fact a love-fest. Watch out for the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Review buried in the top ten as it gets a more than a little SPOILERY!!. Otherwise enjoy all 180 minutes of one of Andrew’s favorite show to do of the year. It rushes by quickly!

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!



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– Row Three’s Favorite Albums of the Year
WTLTE Pop Culture Cast (coming soon!)


Tinker Tailor
Sherlock Holmes 2

Talking Animals-
The Artist
Planet of the Apes
The Future
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (the monkey)
Project Nim

The 80’s-
The Smurfs
Conan (the barbarian)
Fright Night
Winnie the Pooh
The Muppets
The Thing
Repo Chick
Super 8
Attack the Block

Movies for Women-
Jane Eyre

The Stars-
Jessica Chastain (6 films) as the suffering wife
Michael Fassbender (4 films) as a frustrated power figure

Personal Represented by Cosmic-
Another Earth
Take Shelter
Attack the Block

We Need to Talk About Kevin
Beautiful Boy
Take Shelter

Evil Cults-
Red State
Kill List
Paradise Lost 3


The ENTIRE top ten are comic books or sequels…

1) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 ($381,011,219)
2) Transformers: Dark of the Moon ($352,390,543)
3) The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 ($276,424,872)
4) The Hangover Part II ($254,464,305)
5) Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides ($241,071,802)
6) Fast Five ($209,837,675)
7) Cars 2 ($191,452,396)
8 ) Thor ($181,030,624)
9) Rise of the Planet of the Apes ($176,711,822)
10) Captain America: The First Avenger ($176,654,505)

Of the entire top 20, only 3 are not of this ilk (The Help, Bridesmaids, Super 8).


10) Drive
9) Hannah
8 ) Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy SPOILERS!!
7) Project Nim
6) Kotoko
5) Contagion
4) Cafe de Flore
3) Melancholia
2) We Need to Talk Kevin
1) Tree of Life

Honorable Mentions: Rango, Carnage, The Innkeepers, Shame, ALPS, Attack The Block, Page Eight, Tyrannosaur, Take Shelter, A Lonely Place To Die, Another Earth, The Artist, Sleepless Night, Kill List

Didn’t See But Should’ve: The Skin I Live in, A Dangerous Method, Certified Copy, Beginners, The Future

Worst film: The Moth Diaries

10) Tucker and Dale vs. Evil
9) The Human Centipede 2
8 ) Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy SPOILERS!!
7) Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows
6) Drive
5) Buck
4) I Saw the Devil
3) Tabloid
2) Rango
1) 50/50

10) Drive
9) The Descendants
8 ) Moneyball
7) Beginners
6) Incendies
5) Another Earth
4) 13 Assassins
3) 50/50
2) Midnight in Paris
1) The Skin I Live In

Top Ten not in the Top Ten: The Artist, Cracks, Melancholia, Win Win, Hanna, Martha Marcy May Marlene, Limitless, Take Shelter, Meek’s Cutoff, Winnie the Pooh

Just Great Fun:: Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, Mission Impossible – Ghost Protocol, Fast Five, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Troll Hunter, Stakeland, Hobo with a Shotgun

Didn’t See But Should’ve/Will: Carnage, The Help, The Interrupters, Bellflower, A Separation, The Raid

Worst films: Aftershock, Red State


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I notice you guys don’t really have iTunes artwork for the cinecast. Do you guys take submissions for artwork. I pretty good at graphic design stuff.

Jandy Hardesty

Haven’t listened yet, but The Tree of Life fits in at least two of your “trend” categories as well. 🙂

Matt Gamble

Yeah, parenting and evil cults.


KOTOKO is being released in the UK during the summer and the DVD and Bluray will be out in October through Third Window Films

Jandy Hardesty

Matt – make that three categories, then.

Steven Landry

Hey Kurt… waves*
*one of the many who hated KOTOKO.


Hey Matt Gamble, you should check out Wong Kar Wai’s Fallen Angels. It is his rock and roll film, and it is fucking amazing.

By the way, how is the ending of The Devil Inside? The Twitter crowd is going berserk over the ending of the film.

Matt Gamble

Its people making a big stink over nothing.

David Brook

Yeah Fallen Angels is second only to In The Mood For Love in my favourite Wong Kar Wai films I think. It helps that it was the first one I saw.

Robert Reineke

Another trend, although perhaps not a new one, was a lot of high profile homaging of past films/styles. Rango, Super 8, Hobo With a Shotgun, Hugo, and The Artist were all playing in a similar sandbox to varying extents. Granted, films commenting on films is nothing new, but nostalgia seemed particularly strong this year.

Jandy Hardesty

Robert, Drive and Hanna also fit that category. And Tintin and Winnie the Pooh, if you stretch a bit.


One could argue that nearly every year for the past 60 traffick’s in nostalgia when it comes to cinema. It’s one of the great things that movies do, actually…

Rick Vance

I would like to agree when you guys commented on Tinker Tailor possibly working silently, because I watched the film on a version that didn’t have subtitles and all those scenes played so well while not knowing exactly what is being said, the opening scene with Mark Strong is prime example.

Also Andrew you mention about Another Earth that the concept is what stuck with you more than the movie itself but isn’t the fact that the concept is superior to the characters reason enough for the film to not really be that good at the end of the day (In Time would slide right into that)

Robert Reineke

I wish Another Earth was actually a drama, but I think it’s a melodrama at heart that thinks it’s a drama.

That said, I’m on Andrew’s side when it comes to Midnight in Paris and Tree of Life. Midnight in Paris isn’t a bit transgressive and edgy, but those aren’t always necessarily compliments. It’s a movie that shows the attractions of nostalgia, in a fun, novel way, and yet also debunks it as a way to live. It may not be anything really new in form and style, but I appreciate that it’s actually about something that Allen hasn’t tackled in a while and he tackles it with a novel premise. Isn’t part of the definition of an auteur someone that has repeating themes and ideas? Plus, Owen Wilson is in no way a neurotic, New York, Jew. And, while I do consider Tree of Life more than a little pretentious, I think the beauty of the images, the performances, and the observations about growing up in the 50s, which are clearly autobiographical to some extent, are strengths that can and do hit home for a lot of people.

Matt and Pauline Kael probably would have got along well. At heart, they both value sensation.

Matt Gamble

Matt and Pauline Kael probably would have got along well. At heart, they both value sensation.

I totally would have slept with Sam Peckinpah too.

Nat Almirall

Thank you for vindicating me on Beautiful Boy. Up yours, Halfyard. Oh, and you’re spot on about Tinker, Tailor — if you liked the long scenes of people saying nothing and sitting in that room, check out the very first scene of the BBC Tinker, Tailor.


Just wanted to say thanks to Kurt for Cafe de Flore; had never heard of it until I heard Kurt talk about it here and fortunately they happened to show it here as part of Canada’s top 10 last night and wow, it blew me away. What a great movie; fantastic story and just absolutely gorgeous to look at and listen to.

So yeah, thanks Kurt, would likely never have seen the film if you had not mentioned it here.


Glad you saw it Keith, and on the Big Screen Too. But really, you should be thanking Bob Turnbull who planted the seed in my ear then beat me over the head to get out and see it. No Regrets on that one, and am looking forward to seeing the film for the third time (when the skull-bruises heal…)

Bob Turnbull

Anytime you need a good pummeling, I’m here for you Kurt…B-) Sorry if I got carried away on that last one – I’m sure the stitches will heal things nicely.

I’m just glad people are finding the film – slowly, but a pretty large percentage of those who do see it are singing its praises. I’d love to see more of the big critics see it and spread the word out – a MUBI post on it would be lovely, but I don’t think there’s been enough screenings of it (then again, I don’t know its previous festival schedule except that it premiered at Venice then went to TIFF).

Keith, both Kurt and I wrote reviews here on the site and then rot joined us for an extensive conversation about it, so we’d love to hear some further thoughts from you about it in any of those threads.