Cinecast Episode 235 – Clint’s Notes

Our quickest show in some time: Gamble mangled his ankle and is on the DL and Kurt is suffering from an energy sapping cold. But we soldier on folks, we soldier on. Like good little Cineastes, we check out the yearly offering from Clint Eastwood. This time it is a puffy Leonardo DiCaprio making out with the man in the bad latex, Armie Hammer (sans CGI twin) across the annals of twentieth century America in J. Edgar **SPOILERS**. This segues into our first “VS.” segment, where we debate “Eastwood the Actor” vs. “Eastwood the Director”, and struggle with the thin line in between those distinctions. We also check back in with quality Brit-Creature-Feature Attack The Block **SPOILERS**. In The Watch List we get our music on with Bill Condon’s Dreamgirls and Jean-Marc Vallée’s Café de flore. A little bit of philosophical waxing on the nature of the Space and Time rounds out the show.
 
 

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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
Movie Club Podcast
Director’s Club Podcast


MAIN REVIEWS:
Attack the Block
J. Edgar


VERSUS:
Clint Eastwood (director)
vs.
Clint Eastwood (actor)

(IMDb)


THE WATCH LIST:

Andrew
– “Into the Universe” with Stephen Hawking
Dreamgirls

Kurt
Cafe de Flore


DVDs/NETFLIX INSTANT NOW AVAILABLE:
Jandy’s DVD Triage


OTHER STUFF MENTIONED:
170 Greatest Clint Eastwood Quotes
Benedict Cumberbatch (IMDb)


NEXT WEEK:
The Descendants


PRIVATE COMMENTS or QUESTIONS?
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kurt@rowthree.com

 

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Kubcock
Guest

Attack the Blocks budget was £9 million ($13 million) and has only made £3,442,302 ($5,287,439)

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Whoa. I stand corrected on both counts. A little fact checking would have done me good before recording the show.

If that is the case, then it’s too bad that this sharp little genre movie couldn’t make it into the Black in the UK, and was more or less ignored in North America. That’s a shame.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Also forgot to mention in the cinecast that the character in the film, the mother of the downs syndrome child, is played by Johnny Depp’s ‘life partner’ Vanessa Paradis. More useless trivia.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Newman directed a few films, including Rachel, Rachel–I wonder if Seinfeld got the name from there–and the awesomely titled The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds. As well as an adaptation of Tennessee Williams’s The Glass Menagerie, which I’ve never seen, but it seems to have a pretty good cast with Joanne Woodward, Karen Allen, and John Malkovich.

And I remember Play Misty for Me being pretty good. If nothing else, the villain is played by Jessica “Lucille Bluth” Walter.

LeeH
Guest

It’s a shame Attack The Block didn’t find an audiance here (UK) i think it’ll be huge on dvd.

Some have put it down to the riots and people not wanting to pay to see Hoodies as heroes but i think that was just one of the problems. It’s a british film so already it has a stigma of not being Hollywood plus the lack of stars and a pretty average trailer (Joe Cornish has said he wasn’t a fan) really didn’t help it. There was also the odd negative review.

Hans, Norway
Guest

Just a technicality, but please make the links in the “show notes” to pop up in new window, rather than same page, if possible. It fucks up the show when I forget it, and click on one of the links 🙂 And nothing is more annoying than to have to go back; finding where you left off in the show. Other than that, excellent show guys.

As for the Eastwood vs. Eastwood; the jury is still out, for my part. This because the director seems to be loosing touch, to some extend, with his latest movies. For now it’s an even vote!

Hans, Norway

Nat Almirall
Guest

Eastwood vs. Eastwood: I wonder if it’s really a fair competition, as directors who attempt acting or vice versa generally tend to play to their strengths, that is, if they’re not good at acting, but they’re good directors, they tend to direct more (Sofia Coppola, for example); or bad at acting but good at directing (Ben Affleck?).

I think Eastwood’s good at both, and I suppose, outside of Orson Welles or John Huston, he’s one of the few who has a prolific-enough resume of both acting roles and directing roles that you could compare the two (maybe Otto Preminger, because he was awesome as Mr. Freeze in the 1966 Batman series). But, as you mentioned, he tends toward the same kind of character whereas as a director, his projects have been very diverse.

So basically I don’t know.

Nat Almirall
Guest

Er wait, I screwed that first part up–both Coppola and Affleck would be in the first category; for someone bad at directing but good at acting it’d be, uh, Philip Seymour Hoffman?

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

I think it’s kind of a mistake to suggest that Eastwood (or any of the other persona-heavy actors Kurt mentions) isn’t a good actor because he sticks closely to the same role. These days we often tend to equate “good actor” with “chameleon,” but when Eastwood started out, being a chameleon was far less important than having a strong persona and charismatic screen presence. He may have been a little later than Cagney and Bogart and the rest, but he’s very much of a piece with them, Kurt’s right. And the fact that he doesn’t stray very far from that persona doesn’t mean that he’s not DAMN good at it, and I don’t think that should be diminished just because he doesn’t do gobs of different kinds of parts. He knows his strengths as an actor and he sticks to them, with nuances of variation here and there. There’s nothing wrong with that.

I like a few of Eastwood’s directed movies, but he’s much better as an actor for me. But then I haven’t seen too many of his earlier films as a director, so I tend to associate him with the really Oscar-baity stuff he’s done over the past ten years. Unforgiven is fantastic, though. Still, he’s probably one of the more successful (both in terms of financial and award success and actual quality) people to both act and direct consistently.

Jim Laczkowski
Guest

Guess the movie:

“Eastwood? What kind of stupid name is that?!”

Nat Almirall
Guest

@Jandy If that was directed toward me, I did say that Eastwood’s good at both. And I certainly didn’t say that the lack of diversity in his acting roles made him a bad actor. Rather, I was trying to imagine how one could rank his acting performances against his projects as a director. I don’t know if you can.

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

It was not, Nat, it was directed at Andrew’s statements in the podcast.

Kurt
Guest

Jandy sides with me. Therefore, I Win. 😛

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

I like your logic, Kurt. 🙂

schizopolis
Guest

The only memorable thing about Dead Pool was Jim Carrey lip-synching Welcome to the Jungle. Technically, Clint discovered Carrey. He put him in Pink Cadillac.

rot
Guest

Neither of you have seen Bridges of Madison County? I would say that is one of his better acting and directing films. It is very good.

rot
Guest

going over Eastwood’s filmography there are only three films he directed I would say are great: Unforgiven, Mystic River and Bridges of Madison County. Workmanlike is good descriptor given the proportion of mediocre to bad films he has made.

Goon
Guest

I’d put Letters from Iwo Jima up there among the top ones. And I surprisingly really got into Invictus.

Ross Miller
Member

Did anyone else have problems with the podcast? I downloaded it from iTunes and at about the 1 hr 5 minute mark the audio just cuts off. The time still continues but there’s just silence till the end of the file. Has that happened to anyone else or is it just me?

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

I had no problems, Ross, but I don’t use iTunes – downloaded it straight into Downcast on my iPad.

mason
Guest

You guys said you never saw White Hunter, Black Heart, but I’d recommend seeing it if you ever get the chance. It was made in that time period when Hollywood had a thing for location shooting in Africa. It’s sort of a bio with the names changed (a-la Citizen Kane) taken from the situation of the making of John Huston’s “The African Queen”. Clint Eastwood directs himself as a gruff filmmaker who turns out to be more concerned with hunting a bull elephant than shooting the on-location film. His writer tag-along is played by Jeff Fahey, who is really the reason I sought out the film.

Rot
Guest

So tempted to buy the big sale item at amazon, the35 films of Clint for $65… I haven’t seen a lot of the early stuff like The Gauntlet, heartbreak Ridge, the stuff with the monkey, Bird, or white hunter either. Ah temptation.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

LeeH. The cinecast was put on hold this week due to Andrew’s Business, and Kurt’s general under-the-weatherness (the endless cold that will not go away). We are aiming to do something on the weekend, so while there will be no cinecast this week, next weeks will come a lot earlier.

Yay, compromise!

LeeH
Guest

Ah Shame, going to have to fill 2+ hours of my podcast life with something else 🙁

Get well soon. for a cold – excerise untill sweaty, relax for 10 minutes, hot bath for half an hour then hot drink. usually does the trick

antho42
Guest

Kurt, don’t forget to talk about Zentropa.

Ross Miller
Guest

@Kurt – You’ve totally convinced me to see Cafe de Flore, particularly since you mentioned there’s a Sigur Ros song in there. Only thing is, according to IMDB, the UK release date is: May 11th, 2012 🙁

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