Consider this episode to be the B-side for a future show. With nothing to talk about theatrically, we dive right into the goings on within our own homes and portable devices. The ever controversial Ocean’s franchise is debated once again at length. Who wins? You decide. Also, classic Spielberg, classic WWII and we give Wes Anderson another go around and he emerges victorious once again as he is want to do. The whole she-bang starts however, with a quick look at Fincher’s new Dragon Tattoo trailer (both red and green) whilst analyzing the merits of the marketing and the merits (or lack thereof) of the film being remade at all. For not much to talk about we sure do ramble on for a good 150 minutes. Sit back and enjoy the ride – no yelling on the bus!
As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!
http://rowthree.com/audio/cinecast_11/episode_215.mp3
Full show notes are under the seats…
IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
– Renaming contest
WHAT ELSE WE WATCHED:
Andrew
– Battleground
– Quills
– Morning Glory
– Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Kurt
– Priest
– Raiders of the Lost Ark
– Ocean’s 11
– Ocean’s 12
DVD PICKS:
Kurt
– Once Upon a Time in the West [Blu-ray]
– A Man Called Horse [Blu-ray]
Andrew
– Barry Lyndon and Lolita [Blu-ray] (Kubrick Collection)
– Drive Angry
OTHER DVDs NOW AVAILABLE:
Jandy’s DVD Triage
Biutiful
Queen To Play
Passion Play
Kaboom
“True Blood” (s3)
Legend (Ultimate Edition) [Blu-ray]
American Graffiti (Special Edition) [Blu-ray]
Big Jake [Blu-ray]
Rio Lobo [Blu-ray]
INSTANT WATCH NEW RELEASES/EXPIRING SOON:
Andrew
– “Dark Shadows” (new)
– Johnny Dangerously (new)
Kurt
– Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead (expiring Jun 15)
– Prag (expiring Jun 15)
OTHER STUFF MENTIONED:
NEXT WEEK:
Tree of Life
Midnight in Paris
PRIVATE COMMENTS or QUESTIONS?
Leave your thoughts in the comment section below, or email us:
feedback@rowthree.com (general)
andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com
I hate it when your podcasts take a day or two to appear on the itunes feed for me to download on my itouch.
Sorry Gil. Not sure why that would be – probably a settings issue in your iTunes. It shows up right away for me when I hit refresh. Try right clicking the rowthree name in your list of podcasts and choose “update”. This should bring it up right away. Of course I just hilight all of the podcasts and update them manually every morning searching for new episodes.
After taking down Morning Glory on this episode and calling out Gamble, I look forward to next week and flying owls in the Gahoule thing. Jesus. I’m done listening to him on mainstream, middle of the road movies because we simply have 180 degree different visions of what’s good or bad.
I have yet to watch Guardian Gahouley Owls with the kiddies, but it probably won’t happen this weekend though, at some point I would like to get in on that conversation.
Great visuals for the most part. But it simply tries too hard and gets tedious by the end (enough with the bullet time for crissakes!!!!). The dialogue is vomit inducing.
@Andrew James Believe me sir, there is no need to apologize. Consider me hooked. That little “complaint” of mine, consider it the ramblings of an addict.
Of course Kurt was lean towards the most meta of the Ocean series. I am with Andrew on this, I found Oceans 12 dull, I understand the meta aspects, the playing with expectations by, for example, throwing out the actual caper, but in feels like a exercise in smugness. I DO actually like Oceans 11 for the story in so far that any heist film is about the heist, how you pull it off. The charm and star factor keeps it all lubricated and moving nicely, but ultimately it is about awesome people doing awesome things… it is not watching awesome people sit around a patio and talk about themselves as types.
The very NATURE of OCEANS11 (And I mean the Rat Pack version) was to have a little fun on the Studio’s Dime, and (maybe, maybe not) have that fun translate on screen (Many would argue they failed, if that was even intended.) Thus in a spiritual sense (if one needs to put remakes in context with each other at all) Oceans 11 is the only absolutely true to itself Soderbergh OCEANS movie. It heightens the focus on celebrity and reputation (again back to the Rat Pack), that is merely hinted at in the first one, and completely dropped in the third one. These movies are indeed about STAR POWER and Oceans 12 mines it for all it is worth. Oceans 11 is merely plot and dialogue. Oceans 12 actually attempts something interesting with the form.
You mileage may (indeed, will) vary.
I should go on record (because a technical glitch may have kiboshed it during the Substream Comic book debate) that my MARVEL AVENGERS has already been made, it’s called OCEANS 12. A movie that deftly handles a bunch of heroes and villians and doesn’t get weighted down too much by the fact that is juggling 16 odd characters across multiple countries and plot diversions…
(Expects Gamble to do/say something derogatory to this comment)
No Oceans 12 conversation in this article, it is strictly comparing Oceans11-1960 to Oceans 11-2001:
http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/review/2001/12/11/oceans_rant/index.html?CP=IMD&DN=110
The author is WAAAY to harsh on the new one, but has some pretty darn salient points on the originals insouciance….which of course is handled on several levels in Oceans 12.
(In the original, the Ocean’s team are all war buddies, but they never show them in WWII, one might say that Oceans 11 is the war that made the team buddies so they could do their thing in Oceans 12)….maybe a stretch, maybe not.
Kurt and Andrew,
Have you guys checked out Marshall’s Dog Soldiers?
Dog Soldiers is my least favorite Marshall film but I still enjoyed it for the most part. For now though, Marshall is still batting 1000 for me amd I’ll see anything he makes without even a trailer or a still.
The dialogue is vomit inducing.
Well it is about owls. Vomit should be expected.
(Expects Gamble to do/say something derogatory to this comment)
Only this one?
Yep, I’m a fan of Dog Soldiers. A solid B-film start to a career I’ll follow. Sean Pertwee should get more work (outside of TV and Videogame voice-overs)
Nice job on the filmjunk news theme Andrew.