Cinecast Episode 215 – The Pleasure is in the Ritual

 
 
Consider this episode to be the B-side for a future show. With nothing to talk about theatrically, we dive right into the goings on within our own homes and portable devices. The ever controversial Ocean’s franchise is debated once again at length. Who wins? You decide. Also, classic Spielberg, classic WWII and we give Wes Anderson another go around and he emerges victorious once again as he is want to do. The whole she-bang starts however, with a quick look at Fincher’s new Dragon Tattoo trailer (both red and green) whilst analyzing the merits of the marketing and the merits (or lack thereof) of the film being remade at all. For not much to talk about we sure do ramble on for a good 150 minutes. Sit back and enjoy the ride – no yelling on the bus!

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


 
 

 

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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
– Renaming contest


WHAT ELSE WE WATCHED:

Andrew
Battleground
Quills
Morning Glory
Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

Kurt
Priest
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ocean’s 11
Ocean’s 12


DVD PICKS:

Kurt
Once Upon a Time in the West [Blu-ray] – A Man Called Horse [Blu-ray]

Andrew
Barry Lyndon and Lolita [Blu-ray] (Kubrick Collection)
Drive Angry


OTHER DVDs NOW AVAILABLE:
Jandy’s DVD Triage
Biutiful
Queen To Play
Passion Play
Kaboom

“True Blood” (s3)
Legend (Ultimate Edition) [Blu-ray] American Graffiti (Special Edition) [Blu-ray] Big Jake [Blu-ray] Rio Lobo [Blu-ray]


INSTANT WATCH NEW RELEASES/EXPIRING SOON:

Andrew
– “Dark Shadows” (new)
Johnny Dangerously (new)

Kurt
Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead (expiring Jun 15)
Prag (expiring Jun 15)


OTHER STUFF MENTIONED:


NEXT WEEK:
Tree of Life
Midnight in Paris


PRIVATE COMMENTS or QUESTIONS?
Leave your thoughts in the comment section below, or email us:
feedback@rowthree.com (general)
andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com

 

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Gil
Guest

I hate it when your podcasts take a day or two to appear on the itunes feed for me to download on my itouch.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I have yet to watch Guardian Gahouley Owls with the kiddies, but it probably won’t happen this weekend though, at some point I would like to get in on that conversation.

Gil
Guest

@Andrew James Believe me sir, there is no need to apologize. Consider me hooked. That little “complaint” of mine, consider it the ramblings of an addict.

rot
Guest

Of course Kurt was lean towards the most meta of the Ocean series. I am with Andrew on this, I found Oceans 12 dull, I understand the meta aspects, the playing with expectations by, for example, throwing out the actual caper, but in feels like a exercise in smugness. I DO actually like Oceans 11 for the story in so far that any heist film is about the heist, how you pull it off. The charm and star factor keeps it all lubricated and moving nicely, but ultimately it is about awesome people doing awesome things… it is not watching awesome people sit around a patio and talk about themselves as types.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

The very NATURE of OCEANS11 (And I mean the Rat Pack version) was to have a little fun on the Studio’s Dime, and (maybe, maybe not) have that fun translate on screen (Many would argue they failed, if that was even intended.) Thus in a spiritual sense (if one needs to put remakes in context with each other at all) Oceans 11 is the only absolutely true to itself Soderbergh OCEANS movie. It heightens the focus on celebrity and reputation (again back to the Rat Pack), that is merely hinted at in the first one, and completely dropped in the third one. These movies are indeed about STAR POWER and Oceans 12 mines it for all it is worth. Oceans 11 is merely plot and dialogue. Oceans 12 actually attempts something interesting with the form.

You mileage may (indeed, will) vary.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I should go on record (because a technical glitch may have kiboshed it during the Substream Comic book debate) that my MARVEL AVENGERS has already been made, it’s called OCEANS 12. A movie that deftly handles a bunch of heroes and villians and doesn’t get weighted down too much by the fact that is juggling 16 odd characters across multiple countries and plot diversions…

(Expects Gamble to do/say something derogatory to this comment)

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

No Oceans 12 conversation in this article, it is strictly comparing Oceans11-1960 to Oceans 11-2001:

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/review/2001/12/11/oceans_rant/index.html?CP=IMD&DN=110

The author is WAAAY to harsh on the new one, but has some pretty darn salient points on the originals insouciance….which of course is handled on several levels in Oceans 12.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

(In the original, the Ocean’s team are all war buddies, but they never show them in WWII, one might say that Oceans 11 is the war that made the team buddies so they could do their thing in Oceans 12)….maybe a stretch, maybe not.

Britney
Guest

Kurt and Andrew,

Have you guys checked out Marshall’s Dog Soldiers?

Matt Gamble
Guest

The dialogue is vomit inducing.

Well it is about owls. Vomit should be expected.

(Expects Gamble to do/say something derogatory to this comment)

Only this one?

Kurt
Guest

Yep, I’m a fan of Dog Soldiers. A solid B-film start to a career I’ll follow. Sean Pertwee should get more work (outside of TV and Videogame voice-overs)

Gord
Guest

Nice job on the filmjunk news theme Andrew.