Cinecast Episode 202 – Obviously You’re Not a Golfer

 

It is a cornucopia, a smörgåsbord, a veritable potpourri of cinema, as the Cinecast regulars get together with nothing on the agenda other than to talk about what they have watched, in the cinema, on the DVD and streamed from the internet or (in an exciting technology development, from the Computer Hard Drive.) Andrew continues to dig into the Foreign Language Nominees with Alejandro González Iñárritu’s Biutiful. Kurt comes at Oscar a different way with the new documentary on the man with the midas touch when it comes to little gold men, Harvey Weinstein. And Gamble talks best animated film of 2011 with a preview of the flat out awesome Gore Verbinski/Nickelodeon/Industrial-Light-And-Magic Johnny Depp western, Rango. From there, we go from the occult, to Penelope Cruz DTV failures, to two vastly different takes time travel from the 1980s to Chinese shopping malls. Then it is onto Romans wandering about Scotland, Aussie crime dynasties and suburban teenage prostitution rings! It is all a part of your complete breakfast.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


 
 

 

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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
Alternate, no music version
Talking Ghostbusters with RowThree’s own Tom Clift.


MAIN REVIEWS:
Biutiful (IMDb)


OTHER REVIEWS:
The Eagle (IMDb) | (Mamo! Video Review)
Unauthorized: The Harvey Weinstein Project (IMDb) | (Kurt’s Review)


WHAT ELSE WE WATCHED:

Andrew
Back to the Future II (IMDb) | (Netflix)
Chromophobia (IMDb) | (Netflix)
American Teen (IMDb) | (Netflix)
Pig (IMDb)

Matt
Rango (IMDb) | (Matt’s review)
Johnny Mnemonic (IMDb) | (Netflix)
The Parking Lot Movie (IMDb) | (Netflix)
Animal Kingdom (IMDb) | (Netflix)
Bonanza: A Documentary on Five Screens (at The Walker)
Utopia in Four Movements (Official site)

Kurt
Time Bandits (IMDb) | (Netflix Instant)
Kurt’s Kids Video Review:

The Ninth Gate (IMDb) | (Netflix)
The Babysitters (IMDb) | (Netflix Instant)


DVD PICK #1:
        ANDREW:

Unstoppable
(Marina’s review)
(Netflix)

        KURT:

Waiting for Superman
(IMDb)
(Netflix)

        MATT:

Summer Wars
(IMDb)
(Netflix)

DVD PICK #2:
        ANDREW:

You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger
(IMDb)
(Netflix)

        KURT:

Summer Wars
(IMDb)
(Netflix)

        MATT:

Lemmy: 49% Motherf**ker, 51% Son Of A Bitch
(IMDb)
(Netflix)


OTHER DVDs NOW AVAILABLE:
Last Tango in Paris [Blu-ray] Network [Blu-ray] The Stranger [Blu-ray] Chaplin (15th Anniversary Edition) [Blu-ray] All the President’s Men [Blu-ray]


OTHER STUFF MENTIONED:
TVersity

Matt’s ‘first review on the interwebs’ of Rango.


NEXT WEEK:
Barney’s Version
Unknown
I Am
I Am Number Four


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kurt@rowthree.com

 

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Goon
Guest

thanks for fixing the mp3/podcasts designation thingy

Goon
Guest

Ay-Ray-bic

Kurt strikes again 😛

(Air-uh-bic)

antho42
Guest

I’m with Tom, there are few laughs in Ghostbuster.

antho42
Guest

Now that I think about it, most of friends( teens or college students) don’t like Ghostbuster, either.

Jonathan
Admin

I’m sorry. Wait a second. There are people who don’t enjoy Ghostbusters? Who don’t find it funny? Who don’t find Murray’s Peter Venkman to be one of the greatest comedic characters? I mean Murray’s line delivery and comedic timing are unmatched – and his lines are crafted from one of the finest comedic scripts with some of the snappiest dialogue that I can even think up.

I’m at a loss and I’m with Kurt. Despite the hundreds of times I’ve watched this over the years, it’s not nostalgia. It’s just a really, really good movie in every way.

Goon
Guest

Here’s a ***MEGA SPOILER*** review of Babysitters from IMDB I thought people might enjoy

“This is a light-hearted comedy about a teen girl who possess the drive and ambition to turn her baby sitting service into sexual smörgåsbord of under-age delights. Shirley (Katherine Waterston) the head of the babysitters acts as the fun loving pimp who makes her friends and their little sister available to babysit to families in the area. After a night of watching the little tykes the girls will be driven home by the fathers, then perform sexual acts with the middle aged men. Not only do these girls gain helpful business experience and make serious coin, but they also help raise the morale of the husbands and fathers with cash to spare.
***SPOILERS***
The most moving and romantic sequence in this movie is the scene at the cabin in the bathroom. Brenda (Louisa Krause) is high off her bottom on ecstasy and almost gets taken advantage of. LAWLS! but then she says “mom” twice which makes her abuser grow a big rubbery one. The final scene in which Shirley finds her Dad with his pants down with a sixteen year old was the perfect wrap up to this heartfelt story of love.
**END SPOILERS***
I can surely say with confidence that this timeless classic will go down as one of the best family-oriented pictures of the century. I highly recommend this to children and rapists alike. “

Goon
Guest

Just watched Babysitters…

I’d give it a 2/5 but it wasn’t resoundingly awful… When you describe the film it seems trashier and more controversial than it actually plays when you watch it. The production values are kind of 90s TV drama… at times felt like I was watching a My So Called Life episode and Claire Danes has gone way off the rails.

I can say its quite watchable, its no difficult task to sit through it, but I didn’t really grasp the capitalism analogy from it, it just kind of played out as an exploitation story without much point to it, and while a lot of the acting is actually fine, and you can tell they put some thought into their performances, the motivations aren’t as well drawn through the script, these kids are quite eager to whore themselves out and given the tone of the movie (rather light, between the camera work and weird, cheap score) it doesn’t really make sense why, other than to push the story forward. The movie doesn’t have the cynical edge that Election does and the girls don’t fall into any sort of type that you recognize. They come across as just regular girls, and the script/dialogue, etc don’t really make it apparent that this in itself is some comment on anything.

Also the ending is kind of predictable. There’s a lingering shot of a certain character in the middle of the film, just wandering in the background, that is such a blown attempt at foreshadowing that most people could easily guess that he’d show up again towards the end in some reveal.

So I guess I’d say its a bad movie that is entertaining enough if you watch it with low expectations and with a familiarity for how easy 90s TV dramas typically play out.

Mad Hatter
Guest

Does anyone who doesn’t write for Row Three get as many plugs as I seem to be getting these days?

For the sake of clarity, the series that got Tom to watch GHOSTBUSTERS sparked when I mentioned to someone how a lot of the 80’s movies I’ve seen for the first time in recent years don’t play as well for me as they would for someone who saw them as a kid. I was then asked which 80’s films I thought had aged well (FERRIS BEULLER & BACK TO THE FUTURE were the first two that came to mind).

Thus the challenge was laid down to find people who hadn’t watched 80’s classics I believed stood the test of time to see how they play now.

Tom is indeed one of my younger guinea pigs, but in other instances I’ve had bloggers who are in their late 20’s and into their 30’s give this little scheme a go…to surprising results.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

We disagree again Goon. While I agree that this film isn’t going to win any cinematography awards, I thought the capitalism, particularly when the two groups of girls start competing for market-space, and the lead girl keeps demanding her 20% cut, etc. etc. was pretty cut and dry. How could you miss this? It plays out quite funny in a good way.

Goon
Guest

It’s there in the plot… but I think its exactly what it is and has no deeper message… because there’s nothing else really going on. Yeah they dangle the other girl over the bridge, and they use the dudes as muscle… but the vast majority of this film is secondary to pointless scenes of Leguizamo with his kids and his weird relationship with the main character. A vast majority of this film doesn’t play even remotely like satire.

Jonathan
Admin

The reality though, we will never know what it is like to watch films like these with fresh eyes. We can speculate all we want, but really, it’s with little reason. We just can’t be sure how much or how little our judgment is clouded.

I only wish I could watch again with fresh eyes films like Raiders of the Lost Ark, the original Star Wars trilogy, Ghostbusters, Once Upon a Time in the West, and oh, pretty much every film I watched as a child, just out of curiosity. Who knows what I would think as an adult without any background knowledge or nostalgia.

Goon
Guest

I never saw the Goonies until I was 26 and I still thought it was awesome.

David Brook
Admin

Ghostbusters is and always will be awesome. Yes I grew up on 80’s movies, but to be fair I was born in ’82, so I was a little young for a lot of them when they first came out. I did watch most of the classics a couple of years later when they were out on VHS though. I think one of the earliest cinematic experiences I can actually remember was watching Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which must have been ’89.

I rewatched The Goonies a year or two ago and it didn’t quite have the same spark to it as I remembered, but I still enjoyed it. As for the first three Indiana Jones movies – those are awesome and no one can tell me otherwise, despite how annoying Kate Capshaw is in Temple of Doom.

Gord
Guest

I too am enjoying the round table what we watched segments. The show doesn’t lag as much with it.

Mad Hatter
Guest

@ Jonathan… What about when its a film you haven’t seen in a l-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-n-g time? That can up the fresh experience factor, no??

Marina
Guest

Now I haven’t seen THE EAGLE but you guys realize it’s based on a book right?

Matt Gamble
Guest

Is that going to make it suck any less?

Marina
Guest

Probably not but worth mentioning since it sounds like Kurt trashes it because it borrows CENTURION’s plot when in fact it’s probably the other way around.

And THE BABYSITTERS is excellent. Happy to see it’s finally getting a little more attention.

Kurt
Guest

It wasn’t so much of a ‘trash it’ but really pointing out that it was a case of poor timing. Having two similar films out at the same time competing for (and confusing) an audience is not generally a good thing. There will always be a loser, or in this case, a heckuvalot of indifference towards both. I was disappointed in Centurion, and that really doesn’t make me want to spend time with The Eagle. If that is ‘trashing The Eagle’ it was entirely unintentional. If the trailer for the film was better maybe. (Currently, and I’ve said this even months ago, I have had and remain having ZERO interest in seeing Skyline, but am totally stoked for Battle:LA, and that simply comes down to the vibe given by the trailers. The bad reviews for Skyline certainly didn’t help sway my initial impression of the trailer!)

Marina
Guest

Wrong again! I admit the BATTLE LA movie looks good but it’s almost a given that it will take itself too seriously an ultimately be disappointing where as SKYLINE was just good fun. I’ll see BATTLE LA but not expecting much.

Marina
Guest

Huh. I thought I’d reviewed BLOOD RIVER. It was stylish but not something I’d highly recommend. It’s Canadian right?

I really enjoyed UNSTOPPABLE. Good fun.

Guess now I have to get my ass in gear and watch SUMMER WARS. You both mentioned it and Dale brought it up on our show too.

Mike Rot
Member

On the whole accessing your computer from your tv novelty… I am sorry, if I have tried it, it’s not new. Granted it didn’t work successfully for me because my LED tv was missing that specific feature and so I went with Wii instead to access internet and Netflix… but yeah, you guys are way behind times (like 2 months!). You get this bluetooth thingy hook it to the back of your tv, connect wi-fi and you got it all.

Marina
Guest

Forget 2 months. More like 2 years. I’ve been streaming from my computer to my tv for a while through both the Xbox and the PS3 but none work particularly well with large files. I usually dump stuff onto a 16G usb and play that off the PS3.

Matt Gamble
Guest

I’ve been playing off my Eee to my TV for ages, but I’ve never heard of streaming remotely from your computer’s HD with just a simple program. Everything has always required purchase of other hardware.

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

I haven’t listened to the show yet, but streaming wirelessly from computer to video game system is NOT new. I was doing it from my PC when I lived in Texas in 2007, both through Zune software and later PlayOn server software to the Xbox360. The Vuze bittorrent client (formerly Azureus) has had this capability for at least a year, more like two. Now, it’s not as pretty as what it sounds like you’re talking about (“easy to read interface broken down by album, etc.”), but it was functional.

Mike Rot
Member

this is too nerdy, I am out.

Marina
Guest

We were using Vuze with our PC and Xbox. Found that the biggest problem was with buffering of large media files so we used it for TV shows but never for movies. At one point we had the hard drive connected directly to our router. Not sure why we stopped doing that.

Now we have our hard drive hooked up to the Apple and we’ve played with a few different programs but haven’t found one I really like so I’m back to jump drives.

Marina
Guest

I think it’s the bomb diggity-giggity if you’re in the US. Pretty sure it’s probably no where near as nice in Canada. Plus don’t you have to pay for everything? Between Netflix, my PVR and ____ I pretty much get whatever I need for no additional cost.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Who the hell uses a resource hog like Azureus/Vuze? Yuck. And wasn’t PlayOn dropped by Microsoft after just a couple of months? Mainly because it wasn’t a very good program? And isn’t Zune a subscription service that only works with Microsoft components? Andrew was talking about a software program that works across multiple platforms and doesn’t require a subscription. That’s pretty damn novel as far as I know.

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

Heh. PlayOn was Windows only, and so is Zune, true enough. Vuze is cross-platform, I haven’t found it to be too taxing on my system, and it does any necessary converting itself, though most of the time it doesn’t need to. It’s certainly more than met my computer-to-TV needs for the last couple of years. (Never had the large media file issue, Marina, but I don’t generally use Blu-ray sized files anyway – usually I’m streaming 1.5gb or less sized files.)

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

Oh, so you can watch YouTube and Hulu on your TV with this? Okay, now THAT’S cool. I’ve had to wire up my computer to the TV with a direct HDMI cable to do that before.

antho42
Guest

Have you’ll notice that the younger generation doesn’t even care about watching stuff on a television (except for video game consoles) — they watch everything on their computers.

Matt Gamble
Guest

That’s because youths are stupid.

paul field
Guest

to add to the nerdiness, I have a hard wired network. This gives access to multiple devices for viewing/streaming.

My TV is an IPTV, so it plays and streams media with no additional hardware, it also has direct access to lovefilm (the UK equiv of Netflix) and iplayer etc. All from the TV remote.

Our satellite box, is now also is connected to the net, and am able to stream any of the movies shown, plus an additional 500 or so that are online only.

Lastly, I have a HTPC which will stream anything in any format, if I get a Lovefilm bluray rental, I can pop that in the drive, make a digital clone of it, post it back and watch at my convenience. They take up a lot of space though. It also indexes all of my stored movies with poster art, dvd covers, synopsis etc, it looks really nice.

Lastly, on our bedroom TV we have an Asus Oplay, a really cheap media box, about 60 quid. That will also stream any file format to our TV. Our network isn’t hardwired in there but use those network plugs you stick in the electric socket and they support 1080p just fine.

Using tversity etc is an ugly solution as (especially with HD material) it will be transcoding on the fly (changing the format and thrashing your processor). If anyone wants any advice on what you can and cant do with this technology, happy to oblige.

sorry for the nerd OD.

Jim The Movie Freak
Guest

It’s best to look at Back to the Future Part II as a transition film rather than something that entirely stands on its own. It’s definitely no EMPIRE STRIKES BACK in terms of sequels, but it’s just dumb fun… a breezy little excursion into paradoxes that are confusing and strange at the same time. Upon re-watching it as an adult, I can easily point out its flaws. It definitely says something when Doc Brown has to literally map out and explain the plot to the audience, using a chalkboard no less. Then we get to relive the same events from the past from the original movie all over again. The future stuff was the most ridiculous and the stakes weren’t as involving as the original. Part III on the other hand, kind of gets everything right and serves as an extremely satisfying conclusion, even with the “WTF” moment involving Doc Brown’s time traveling train?!?

The only issue I have in general with the whole series that needs to be addressed is this: If Marty McFly met his parents and Biff in 1955, then how come none of them act like he’s nothing more than a just a “son” in the present of 1985? Wouldn’t the parents be shocked to see they gave birth to the SAME Marty they met in 1955, and wouldn’t 1985’s Biff have expected to know that Marty was time-traveling, if he met him in 1955? It’s a plot hole that never quite worked itself out in my mind, at least in my opinion. But I still adore the entire trilogy.

swarez
Guest

“but am totally stoked for Battle:LA, and that simply comes down to the vibe given by the trailers.”

Curb those feelings right now. It’s the most blatant army recruitment video I’ve seen in a long time. Marines are going to be rubbing their cocks on the screen at the showings.
It’s sort of like Black Hawk Down crossed with a pinch of District 9 visually but the story takes itself very seriously and there is a bit in the film where the whole thing just stops for a inspiring and patriotic speech.
It’s incredibly good looking film but the story is weak sauce.

Kurt
Guest

OUch.

antho42
Guest

I agree with Suarez — it looks like Michael Bay movie with aliens. I could be wrong.

Marina
Guest

“but the story takes itself very seriously”

I’ve been saying this for weeks. Must admit I feel a little vindicated by that. I haven’t seen BATTLE LA yet but I doubt I’ll have as much fun with it as I did with SKYLINE. Yes. I fully support that B-movie goodness.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Their is nothing good in Skyline. Its a total pile.

it looks like Michael Bay movie with aliens.

Battle: LA looks nothing like ID4.

Marina
Guest

Well it looks like we disagree on almost everything Matt so that doesn’t surprise me.

Shannon the Movie Moxie
Guest

Late to the game on this convo, but confused on the Battle LA taking itself too seriously, there is nothing to indicate it *isn’t* a serious film. Skyline was action crazyness with lots of effects, but it does appear that that was what they were going with. Battle LA isn’t a yee-haw shoot’em up-ness, at least that isn’t how it’s being marketed. There is absolutely zero fun factor indicated from the trailer. It’s like a serious disaster film with the disaster being aliens and the heroes being the military.

mason
Guest

I don’t know why I was shocked to hear Andrew get all negative about Back to the Future, Part II. I was all set to hear him rave about one of the best sequels ever acheived. To me it is the best of the trilogy, followed by I, then III. It IS the Empire Strikes Back of sci-fi comedy trilogy middle installments, In that they both are “road movies” going from place to place at a fast pace throughout the story, and both have a cliffhanger ending. In the end both have a secondary hero character go missing, with hope of a reunion in part three. Zemeckis and Bob Gale drew very colorful characters in a pretty inventive storyline. The re-visit to 1955 couldn’t have been an easy thing to pull off, and neither was writing themselves out of the corner they put themselves in at the end of part one (this must have been a lesson for future writers to always anticipate a sequel to be green-lit). But the way they did both of these things amusingly and creatively earns the film some big points. You can’t criticize the movie for an unrealistic viewpoint of the 2015 lifestyle. You know you can’t predict that stuff, and most of that technology was just there for kitchy comedy. I don’t see it as a serious anticipation of 2015 life but a comedic late 1980s impression of what life will be like in the distant future “when us kids are 47”. Don’t forget it’s a movie for families, which is why the chalkboard exposition is fine for me. Actually I find it a very fun exchange between Marty and the Doc. Also, that great score by Alan Silvestri only helps with my suspense, wonder , and inner cheering.

Cannondale20
Guest

Johnny Depp goes to Portugal not Spain in The Ninth Gate.
Great show guys

Jonathan
Guest

I love The Ninth Gate and actually even own it, although I do agree with your on the lackluster ending.

antho42
Guest

The Ninth Gate would be a great selection for the Movie Club Podcast… except for the lack of Matt Gamble.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Yep, nice to see the NINTH GATE getting some eleventh hour love. its a good filmmaking film. See also FEMME FATALE…

Mike Rot
Member

I just rewatched Ed Wood last night, now there is a Johnny Depp performance. I caught Ninth Gate on Netflix a couple months ago, I enjoyed it, but didn’t find it great in any way.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I seriously HEART Tim Burton’s Ed Wood, it’s probably his emotionally honest (not that that is a pre-requisite in his type of filmmaking) film to date. Big Love for that, and its excellent supporting cast.

Is it just me but is Depp’s performance a little like a Christian Slater caricature…thinking about that too much boggles the mind though.. Carry on.

Mike Rot
Member

I am on a bit of a Tim Burton kick now, plan to rewatch Pee Wee’s Big Adventure, Batman, Batman Returns soon. I think Ed Wood is probably my second favorite Burton, after Nightmare Before Christmas. It is visually stunning black and white, and yeah everyone from Bill Murray to Jeffrey Jones to of course Martin Landau are great in it. It has a run time of 2 hours which feels a bit long (my problem with Burton tends to be his inability to maintain momentum in his films, the shorter the better – thus my love of Nightmare). I loved the TIFF Burton exhibit of his art, that to me is where he excels in the visual ideas, the concepts, individual scenes… patched together into films he is more miss than hit (at least to me).

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