Mamo #184: Harry Potter and the Deathly Mamo, Part One

Harry Potter 7 (of 8 ) is here to gobble up your November moviebucks, and it’s a great experiment – part one of two, with no narrative closure to be found. Not since the heyday of Back to the Future II has a big studio left a franchise twisting in the proverbial wind like this… did they have better luck with it this time? Plus, Green Lantern, Cowboys & Aliens, and Amazon Studios!

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Kurt
Guest

"…with no narrative closure to be found. Not since the heyday of Back to the Future II has a big studio left a franchise twisting in the proverbial wind like this…"

Hate to be a stickler, but "FELLOWSHIP OF THE RINGS…"?

Andrew James
Admin

They actually mention LotR specifically in the show.

Kurt
Guest

Haven't listened yet, but the text above struck me as rather odd…

Kurt
Guest

Will do. I see where you are coming from though. yet I certainly recall VIVIDLY the "WHAT??!!??" at the end of FotR from many people that thought there would be some sort of resolution at the end of each part of the LotR trilogy.

I guess this also happened with The Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions and Empire/Jedi or for movies intentionally spit up, a la Kill Bill…but I'm just rambling here…

Jonathan Hardesty
Guest

On the one hand, the Amazon Studios ordeal is laughable, especially for the reasons John August said. On the other hand, it's infuriating as it cheapens the screenwriting process even more for those who don't really know better. Screenwriters already have to deal with having their work taken by a director and then re-written to fit his needs, but at least we have an arbitration process that still gives us credit for the work we did. Trying to arbitrate this with the amount of people re-writing would be an absolute script-reading nightmare. And what's to say the ideas will get better with re-writes?

I'd rather just go make my film myself than have the internets at large turn it into a different film completely.

Kurt
Guest

Complete agreement on the Crowd-sourced concept at Amazon. It's likely not going to work out. Of course reading "YOU ARE NOT A GADGET" at the moment tends to make you see every web 2.0 object as a nail to be whacked by Jaron Lanier's hammer.

rot
Guest

I am withholding judgment on the issues raised in the Lanier book until I finish it, I feel at times he is too cynical about what has happened to the art output because of the technology at hand, but he could be right. It is easy to get bogged down with a fixed worldview (usually when you were in the prime of your life and everything from that point is conceived of as falling short of that ideal). I am pro cultural evolution, the Rip! ideas still make sense to me, but I am also starting to think maybe I have underestimated the sheer power of locked-in design features and the influence they have over the content of our communication. Echoes of The Medium is the Message in what Lanier appears to be saying.

Kurt
Guest

I think he is somewhat off about music. How do you describe Sufjan Stevens, Arcade Fire and Broken Social Scene and in this context? And I think Lanier mistakes the fragmentation of music in general for the lack of any cohesive set of artists to point at.

He is making same mistake that people who compare the 1990s to the 1970s of American Cinema, in a way.

But we're threadjacking here!

rot
Guest

Broken Social Scene is practically crowd-sourcing, how many people are in that band, like 20?

I don't know the full story about this Amazon company, but at the end of the day isn't there some person editing the finished product? The novelty is the kind of material being used, but its still the same craft isn't it? If the crowd gets to edit that doesn't make any sense.

Jonathan Hardesty
Guest

There's also the thought that if there are enough edits, who is going to go back and read through the original? Not to mention that through Amazon Studios you can't shop the script around for a set period of time. There are a few other contractual issues that give me even MORE pause. 😛

Jandy
Guest

I think there are only like five to seven actual members of Broken Social Scene at any given time – the rest are like guests on specific songs. And don't Kevin and Brendan do the majority of the songwriting? I could be wrong about that, but I think of it as Kevin and Brendan plus a bunch of their friends.

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