Cinecast Episode 173 – Killing Squirrels for Entertainment

From La-La-Land and subbing in for Gamble this week, is RowThree contributor and all around special lady Jandy Stone. Kurt & Jandy immediately get down to business talking Christians and heavenly bodies in Spanish toga epic, Agora (note *SPOILERS*). They move into the Ozarks for another (spoiler-free) look at Debra Granik’s Sundance winner, Winter’s Bone. Jandy then highlights some of her favourite indies and foreign fare taken in at last weeks Los Angeles Film Festival. The LOST Chronicles continue with Kurt eating crow, swallowing most of his past-gripes and actually enjoying Season 4 (“The Freighter“) and particularly enjoy the hell out of Season 5 (“Back to the Future“) of the show. Note: Minutiae (and *SPOILERS*) ensue. DVD Picks and more round out a darn near 3 hour gangly-sized episode.

As always, please join the conversation by leaving your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!

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Agora (Kurt’s review)
Winter’s Bone (Kurt’s review)

Dog Sweat (Jandy’s review)
Monsters (Twitch has a bit of footage)
The New Year (Jandy’s review)

TOP 5 OF 2010 (so far):

5) The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
4) Cell 211
3) How to Train Your Dragon
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5) The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
4) Splice
3) Fish Tank
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5) The Parking Lot Movie
4) Splice
3) The Book of Eli
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LISTEN to this episode, 173 for our top two picks.

Season 4
Season 5

The White Ribbon
(Rot’s review)


The Eclipse
(Marina’s review)


Warehouse 13 (s1)


The White Ribbon
(Rot’s review)

The White Ribbon
(Rot’s review)

Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage
Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief
Hot Tub Time Machine
The Crazies
The Warlords
Don McKay
Everlasting Moments
(The Criterion Collection)
Night Train to Munich (Criterion Collection)
The Leopard (Criterion Collection) [Blu-ray]

Jandy’s other podcast: Flickers and Beats
No One Knows About Persion Cats (IMDb)
Cold Weather (IMDb)


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Jim the Movie Freak

I'm having trouble downloading this one through Itunes for some reason. I loved "Winter's Bone" by the way. Probably my #1 so far this year.

Jim the Movie Freak

I got it now. All good. Great show, as always. Really excited to hear how Kurt feels about Season 6 of LOST. I'm actually also one of the few that think Season 4 & 5 is when the show reached its pinnacle.

You guys, along with Film Junk, are my favorite podcasts to listen to… so keep it up and thanks for the awesome show.


i didn't mind the music before, but the Explosions tracks were too distracting…and i love that band! I guess it's not proper background music. Sorry, I had to download the clean podcast this week.

Ross Miller


Excited again to check my feed and see another new episode of the Cinecast with your thoughts on Lost (is that sad on my part? 😛 ).

I'm SO glad you found something to LOVE about the show with season 4 and 5. I just knew that if you were ever going to get there it would be with those two seasons. Personally I like season 4 the best of any of the seasons, not sure why (my ranking from favorite to least is: 4, 5, 1, 6, 3, 2)

However, I must put on my suit of armor and get ready for battle with you again on the character stuff. Now granted, the flashforward stuff is more exciting and interesting because it furthers the plot. And I don't think we needed much more flashbacks to explain and fill-in-the-blanks with the characters anymore.

However, I still can't see how you do no care about these characters. After 5 and a bit seasons you REALLY don't care about happens to Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Ben all of them – you wouldn't care if they were killed? If this happened or that happened to them? The character building stuff, in my eyes anyway, has made them into real human beings and not just cardboard cutouts. I don't know how you can say they're not human beings. They're more real and the writers make the audience care about them more than most other characters on TV.

I've never understood the hate people have for Kate – her on the run stuff is really compelling. And her love triangle stuff with Jack and Kate – granted on paper that's soap opera, high school yard crap but in my opinion they play the dynamic really well in the show.

I'm in the same position as Andrew and Jandy were during the show – I don't really wanna say much in fear of spoiling anything for season 6. But I'll just say that I have a bad feeling you're not going to like how the show ends. Let's just leave it there until you finish season 6. I'll be very curious to hear your thoughts.

Some quick notes/questions:

– I'm so glad you got a kick out of that time travel conversation between Hurley and Miles – honestly that's one of my all time favorite scenes of the show. And when Juliet comes in to talk to Jack, Hurley and Miles go outside to give her come privacy and just as they're leaving Miles says "Ask me more questions about time travel" and then they just quickly leave. I thought that was a really nice wink-wink moment. One of the many pleasures of Lost, those moments.

– What did you think of them bringing Michael back into the show? I remember a few episodes back you said it felt rushed the way they wrote him out. I thought they did a really good job fitting him back into the story.

– I'm not surprised you highlighted The Constant from season 4. That ranks up there with a lot of fans as the best episode of the whole show.

– Lastly, on the flash sideways stuff in season 6. It makes sense and works by the end, at least as far as I'm concerned.

Let battle commence 🙂

Maxime Gérin

I caught ''Winter's Bone" earlier today and didn't like it at all. Its main asset is the relatively novel milieu in which it's set but Granik barely uses it. She shows no visual flair and lets the serviceable, get-to-the-point dialogue do all the job of establishing the hierarchy, unwritten laws, geography and restrictions of the community. The film is basically a long series of quick establishing shots followed by close-ups of people talking. ***SPOILER*** Even the decapitation of the corpse's hands is shot like a conversation between the two characters on the boat and rendered completely dull. ***END OF SPOILER***

I didn't find the film depressing (it's not immersive or well-crafted enough to have such a strong impact) but it's certainly one-note. Even the snippets of children playing (which are only used as cutaways between talky scenes) or the brief party sequence show absolutely no joy, or at least something beyond gloom and apathy. Granik isn't able to establish the sense that these characters have lives and relationships outside of the plot we're following, not even Ree.

Jeremy Heilman brings up very good points in his review:


As for the mid-year top 5, out of 9 films seen I couldn't even come up with one 2010 release that I would call "list-worthy". Here's my film year so far:




SHUTTER ISLAND (Martin Scorsese)

SPLICE (Vincezo Natali)



WINTER’S BONE (Debra Granik)

Really, really bad stuff:

LEGION (Scott Stewart)


THE CRAZIES (Breck Eisner)



my top 5 of the first half of 2010

1. Greenberg

2. Shutter Island (I think this is the Row Three consensus pick already)

3. Passenger Side

4. Secrets of the Tribe

5. And Everything is Going Fine (Soderbergh doc)

Darcy S McCallum

my top ten (very strict on release dates so no Micmacs ect)

1. Exit Through The Gift Shop

2. Shutter Island

3. Another Year

4. How to Train Your Dragon

5. On Tour

6. Of Gods & Men

7. Four Lions

8. Outrage

9. Kick-Ass

10. Aurora

i did see Uncle Boonmee, but if you know me i much prefer Ki-duk Kim to 'Jo'.

The Housemaid, Tamara Drewe both need 2nd watches.


I am totally stoked to see the housemaid. I am hoping it plays at tiff this year. And it is news to me that Kim ki duk has a new film out. This is always a good thing!

Darcy S McCallum

Kim Ki Duk dosen't have a new film out, i was just saying that he was better than 'Jo'

though another similar director, Anh Hung Tran has his 2nd films in 2 years, Norwegian Wood coming out (with Jonny Greenwood score) i saw his film from last year, I Come With The Rain, proabably the best film Josh Hartnett will ever be in, a seriously weird film with Elias Koteas as a cannibal-artist.

i'm sure some of you guys on here will LOVE IT, unless you've already seen it and know of its out-there-ness.

David Brook

The Housemaid was good fun and looked pretty, but it wasn't amazing. Anyway, my top 10 is as follows – lots of Cannes entries as the theatrical releases haven't offered much yet:

1. Another Year

2. How To Train Your Dragon

3. We Are What We Are

4. Four Lions

5. Shutter Island

6. Kick-Ass

7. …But Film Is My Mistress

8. Lights Out

9. Of Gods & Men

10. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo

Darcy S McCallum

in my rules Girl with Dragon Tattoo (as well as both its sequels) count as 2009 films. Very good list anyway.

if anybody wants to see my film screening schedule for MIFF 2010 i'll leave a link for the moment, tell me if it doesn't work.

BY THE WAY DO ANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW OF… (awesomeness over there, always)