Cinecast Epsiode 167 – The Quick and The Head

 
Nottingham and its denizens are a changed place. For the better or worse is the question which our bickering board of bloggers hash out to vastly different conclusions. Fortunately the consensus for movie of the week is The Good, The Bad and the Weird; of which we all agree is awesome in a Big Trouble in Little China meets Raiders of the Lost Ark by way of the Leone Spaghetti Westerns. Andrew and Matt also got to catch a screening of Spike Jonze’ short, I’m Here on the big screen. DVD releases this week are slim pickings, so instead we take a little more time with the recent viewings segment including Gary King’s latest drama, as well as the 2009 Bill Kunsler documentary, a little tangent on animation and dubbing Miyazaki films, in particular Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and a minute or two on Zombieland… which still, more or less, sucks.

As always, feel free to leave your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!




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MAIN REVIEW:
Robin Hood (our review)


OTHER REVIEWS:
The Good, The Bad, The Weird (Marina’s review)


WHAT ELSE WE WATCHED:
I’m Here (stream it HERE)
What’s Up Lovely (official site) – (inspired by these films)
William Kunstler: Disturbing the Universe (IMDb)
January Man (IMDb)
Penny Arcade
Zombieland (Andrew’s review)
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (IMDb)


OTHER DVDs NOW AVAILABLE:
Invictus
The Messenger
Valentine’s Day
Extraordinary Measures
The Greatest American Here (complete series)
Carlito’s Way [Blu-ray] Outlander [Blu-ray] Walkabout [Criterion rerelease + Bluray]


PRIVATE COMMENTS or QUESTIONS?
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feedback@rowthree.com (general)
andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com

 

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Darcy S McCallum
Guest

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Kurt
Guest

I never did come back in and say that John Huston died in 1987. Loved the mans work. Wiseblood, starring Brad Dourif and Harry Dean Stanton, is seriously underseen, and Criterion put it out on DVD recently. http://www.rowthree.com/2009/10/22/finite-focus-n

Antho42
Guest

Glad to see that Grave of the Fireflies is going to be discuss in a future episode of the Movie Club podcast.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

We still need to nail down a date for the Sargossa/Fall Episode. So you'll be waiting a while for the GotF discussion. But yes, I'm curious to see how the Movie Club Folks weigh in on that one.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Weren't we talking early June for Movie Club?

Jay C.
Guest

Regarding Lost not having six seasons planned out ahead of time: what does it matter?

Kurt
Guest

Matt: Hopefully we'll all gel for an early June Date. Hopefully everyone has found a copy of the elusive Sargossa Manuscript!

Jay: I guess the writers and creators could 'get lucky' in terms of having things come together, but 'winging it' for something as large in scale (7 Seasons!) and in a plot-heavy thing like Lost seems like a bad approach. But what do I know. Apparently the final episode of this show is an 'event' or something.

rot
Guest

Haven't listened to this, but regarding Lost, when you think about how many story elements call back to elements from the 1st, 2nd season, not just in a jokey way, but a fundamental way, its kind of absurd to think they were winging it. Even if significant mythology elements appeared late in the game, they are echoed in elements from the very beginning, nothing so far feels arbitrary.

That said, I am hoping some things still get resolved in the finale.

Unless something goes horribly awry in the finale Lost will go down as my all-time favorite series, I have watched it twice over and I forgive it its faults, it remains the most ambitious story I have ever encountered in any medium. It is dizzying at times what it is trying to pull off.

Kurt
Guest

I'm looking forward to finally digging into the series. As soon as I work up the courage to swallow seven 22episode seasons. That is a MASSIVE time investment.

rot
Guest

best way to do it: one episode per week.

Antho42
Guest

Kurt– Have you seen Miyazaki's The Castle o f Cagliostr? Along with Totoro, it is my favorite Miyazaki's film.

Matt Gamble
Guest

Regarding Lost not having six seasons planned out ahead of time: what does it matter?

I've never thought they were completely winging it, but there is no way they knew from the beginning that they were doing a 6 season story. They weren't even sure if they'd make it past one season. And once it became a phenomenon questions arose on how long the series would. It wasn't until what, late season 3 that they finally gave the series an end date, and up until that point there were clearly a few episodes that were blatant stalls.

I think once they set an end date they knew exactly how to pace the show and that really freed them up to tell the story exactly how they wanted to. Until then they just didn't know exactly how much time they had to tell a set story.

Jay C.
Guest

I still don't see a problem with a story as huge as Lost evolving organically over time. I would imagine it would allow for more experimentation and creativity. I'm sure the creators of Roseanne hadn't pre-planned the season 9 lottery win. That was pure in the moment storytelling.

POINT PROVEN?

Jonathan
Admin

Winging it or not – who cares how a show is written or created behind the scenes if what comes out as the final product works? People can point it out all they want, but I can't see how that can be considered a flaw if they were able to pull it all together and not leave any loose ends.

Hell, I'm defending Lost and I don't even like it. At all.

Kurt
Guest

I agree with you Jonathan, but I'm saying that in the context of the

big finale tying everything together, or the whole affair coming out as a satisfying whole. Certainly X-Files and much of Twin Peaks eventually collapsed under it's own mythology at a certain point.

Matt Gamble
Guest

I still don’t see a problem with a story as huge as Lost evolving organically over time.

I don't think there is a problem with the end product, but the delivery of the product stagnated at times simply because the show didn't know how to pace itself. For me it wasn't worth sticking around to wait for them to decide when/how to end the show, and by the time they finally settled on an end date, I didn't feel it was worth it to try and catch up until the series was over.

Jonathan
Admin

I'm not completely aware of what is going on being mostly ignorant of the show. I'm just evaluating the comments from the outside – although I understand your point now.

As for X-Files, POTENTIAL SPOILERS it fell completely apart after season seven when they all but wrote out the character that made the show successful it the first place. And then they tossed in all of that super soldier crap. Up until that point though: TV brilliance.

Darcy S McCallum
Guest

go to the I'm Here website, its awesome, even cooler than the movie, and if you're trying for netflix try this better program for ip:

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rot
Guest

the Lost finale has to wrap up only a few bits of its mythology, its not like we have gone six seasons with only questions and nothing has been answered and it all relies on this episode. I think its incredible how well they have been able to push back the curtain episode by episode, gives us better context, and yet keep enough intrigue of what comes next. I know Matt B of Mamo is of the mind that nothing much needs to be explained in the finale, we got the mythology bullet points, its not the job of the show to sit us down and explain every aspect. I am still holding out for a key piece of information that is going to explain not just events of this season but why this intricate game has been going on the way it has.

rot
Guest

also I think it is incredible with how geeky the fans are, and I listen to Lost podcasts and hear countless theories, and really nobody has a firm grasp on what is coming next. I can think of maybe a couple instances where reveals were telegraphed but on the whole the Lost writers have been ahead of a pretty vigilant mass of speculation.

alechs
Guest

Nausicaa is my first and favourite Miyazaki film as a child. I think Princess Mononoke is a film with more heart and nuance, I prefer the sci-fi action universe of Nausicaa a lot more.

About dubbing, I originally watched Nausicaa dubbed in Cantonese on VHS and prefer that version over all the rest. I don't think the English dubs for Miyazaki films are still very rough because of the inherent pacing of English to Japanese is so different. I always cringe when I hear dialogue crammed into the mouths of the characters usually in serve to bland unneeded exposition.

Liney
Guest

You guys mention in the chat about the Sike Jonze short that you like the Michel Gondry style of inventive 'shoelaces and cardboard' film making. Check out "Bunny and the Bull" if you get a chance. I was very pleasnatly surprised. Sort of Gondry with a dab of Jeunet, with a sprinkling of British humour on top.

Oh, and if that doesn't sell it to you, the love interest has a hint of Penelope Cruz about her! :o)

Darcy S McCallum
Guest

you Bunny and the Bull was very good, but in you want great quirk and comedy, MICMACS is amazing, for me better than Amelie and that's saying alot, you don't have to like Dany Boon to love this film, but if you love him this is him in a film by a true master, the 2nd best homage of 09 and hence the 2nd best film of last year behind IB, also has anybody checked out Human Nature, the first Kaufman/Gondry colab, great film as well, Rhys Ifans/Tim Robbins at comedic best.

Director of Buuny & the Bull, Paul King could be doing a Paddington film next.

Kurt
Guest

Both Andrew and I missed Bunny and the Bull at TIFF last year. Did it ever get any sort of commercial theatrical/DVD release?

Kurt
Guest

Nausicaa is my daughters favourite film. I like that the 'Princess' in that one gets bloody, confidently leads, and has nothing invested in the 'love interest' beyond saving her people.

Nausicaa may simply be the best role model for girls ever committed to the screen. Period!

Liney
Guest

Kurt – I'm in the UK, where Bunny and the Bull is already out on DVD (it also got a limited theatrical release here but I missed it in cinemas). Hopefully it will appear in some format in the US & Canada, as I'm sure you don't want to pay for an import.

Liney
Guest

Darcy – I plan to watch Micmacs when it hits DVD. Another film that I missed in cinemas, although I prefer the story telling in Amelie to Jeunet's other (admittedly gorgeous and inventive) films…

Darcy S McCallum
Guest

Micmcas to really unique for Jeunet, its an assemble/homage/pastiche, that Mark Kermode is right 'its like that board game, Mouse Trap' australians most respected critic (considered one of the 10 best in the world) David Stratton, gave it five stars when in opened in February here in Oz, so this week's release in USA is a long time coming, noticed it will play at the Cineplex in Toronto & apparently exclusively at the Landmark in Minnesota.

Kurt
Guest

I don't know if it is exactly the right kind of criticism to 'award' a filmmaker for simply noodling. Really, Micmac's is clearly a 'recharge your batteries' film for Jeunet, moving back from the gigantic sweeping romance picture, A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT, to more his old style.

Unlike wkw's CHUNGKING EXPRESS (shot to alleviate the writers block of ASHES OF TIME) or The Coen's BARTON FINK (shot to relieve the stress of MILLER'S CROSSING), MICMACS is not a side-project as unexpected triumph.

Marc Saint-Cyr
Editor

Like I have said before, I genuinely enjoyed Micmacs. But you're right, Kurt – it's not a "triumph" on the same level as Chungking Express. It's a fun amusement, but I really hope Jeunet finds his sea legs again and tackles something more worthy of his talents for his next project.

Kurt
Guest

Oh, the film is certainly enjoyable. But still, I'd rather seem JpJ boldly head into a new masterpiece than simply fart around. But yea, it's fun for what it is.

Kurt
Guest

(I think we are on the same page here!) Ha!

Marc Saint-Cyr
Editor

It certainly appears so!

Darcy S McCallum
Guest

well i think it hits the ball out of the park. helps i was a big fan of some of the comedians that at appear.

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