Cinecast Episode 157 – Whoop-de-doo

 
This has got to be a record for one of the shortest shows we have ever done. But hey, when you have got these sort of “nothing but what is on the surface” types of films, that is often all you can do with the conversation. We do not even head into spoiler territory for the two films, Cop Out and 44 Inch Chest we review and discuss. There are, however, more than a few great DVDs (and Blu Rays) coming out this week and on the horizon: The Independent Spirit Awards, the Oscars, the new Tim Burton kajillion dollar Alice In Wonderland, and Roman Polanski’s latest, The Ghost Writer. Enjoy the brevity folks, because it is not going to last.

 
 
 
 
 

As always, feel free to leave your own thoughts in the comment section below and again, thanks for listening!


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Full show notes are under the seats…


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IN-HOUSE BUSINESS:
Row Three new design!
Oscar Live Blog
Oscar contest


MAIN REVIEWS:
Cop Out (Kurt’s review)
44 Inch Chest


WHAT ELSE WE WATCHED:
Boogie Nights
A Clockwork Orange
Screamers


DVD PICKS:

Andrew:
Cold Souls
(Andrew’s review)

        Kurt:
Where the Wild Things Are
(Laura’s review)

         
Matt:
The Wraith
(IMDb)


 
 

BLU RAY:

Andrew:
Where the Wild Things Are
(Laura’s review)

        Kurt:
Ponyo!
(IMDb)

        Matt:
Gentlemen Broncos
(IMDb)


OTHER DVDs NOW AVAILABLE:
2012
Bitch Slap
We Live in Public
The Neverending Story
[Blu-ray] Clash of the Titans [Blu-ray] about a hundred different versions of Alice in Wonderland


NEXT WEEK:
Alice in Wonderland (IMDb)
Brooklyn’s Finest (IMDb)
The Ghost Writer (IMDb)
Saint John of Las Vegas (IMDb)
Mystery Train (IMDb)


PRIVATE COMMENTS or QUESTIONS?
Leave your thoughts in the comment section below, or email us:
feedback@rowthree.com (general)
andrew.james@rowthree.com
kurt@rowthree.com

 

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Jandy Hardesty
Admin

OMG, is Burton's Alice really out next week? That seems so…soon. Lost track of time again, I guess. Also, I need to get more proactive about keeping up with Cinecast. I'm only halfway through the last one!

Antho42
Guest

Kurt, I going to do a Studio Gibli marathon for my dorm. i am planning to Gibli films that I have not seen. Now, is Grave and Fireflies too depressing for a group that is mostly going to compose of college girls?

Antho42
Guest

Jeez! Just saw all the grammar that I made. I should start reading the comment before posting. K

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Antho42. If you want a room full of teary, crushed ladies, sure, throw on Grave of the Fireflies. The boys will be tearing along with them. The film is devastating.

murph
Guest

in other words, antho… YES, YOU WANT TO PLAY IT. and yes… you want to invite me.

murph
Guest

i can't listen to the podcast until i get home tonight because my laptop doesn't have speakers that work… but what is the consensus on 44 inch chest without listening to it? yea or nay?

Kurt
Guest

Matt and Andrew recommend 44 Inch Chest as an actor showcase, especially if you like all these guys, you'll get what you pay for, but it's a smidgen shy of doing anything earth-shattering in the story department.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

The English Voice Dub for Ponyo is pretty solid, particularly some of the supporting cast (Tina Fey, Cate Blanchette, Betty White, Lily Tomlin, Cloris Leachman, Matt Damon). I've not heard the Japanese voice track so I can't compare, though.

Actually, I'm inclined to agree with you on some (not all) Miyazaki dubs. Disney/Pixar/etc. spend a lot of time and energy on them, and invest in quality dialogue (Neil Gaiman for instance wrote the Mononoke 'dub-script' and did an upstanding job – I still prefer watching Mononoke in English rather than Japanese). The Nausicaa and Totoro dubs are also fine (Kiki's Delivery Service and Howls are probably better with Subs though!

And if you are really strange, watch PORCO ROSSO with the french dub (Jean Reno does the lead) and subtitles on. Yes weird, and they are supposed to be in Italy in that one. FYI Andrew, Michael Keaton does Porco in the English dub, and he is pretty great – Cary Elwes as the baddie.)

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

I tried to listen to the Mononoke English dub and didn't last more than about ten minutes. IIRC (but it's been years, so I may not), it sounded like all the actors were bored. Which just didn't work at all for me; anime needs the fast, high-pitched Japanese vocals to feel right.

But I haven't tried any other English dubs on Miyazaki films since then – I know they bring out the big talent for them, though. It just never seems right.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Animated films tend to be quite forgiving to post-dubbing in a different language.

Obviously your mileage may vary.

Jandy Hardesty
Admin

Yeah, I can stand dubbing more in animated films than in live-action ones, because the matching of the lips isn't as big a deal (I watched Renaissance dubbed, I think, and it didn't bother me). It's more the disconnect between Japanese animation style and American voice acting style that doesn't work for me. If I'm seeing Japanese animation, I want to hear Japanese voices. Otherwise my brain gets confused. Perhaps a strange mental block, since a lot of anime is dubbed. I guess because I never got into anime in dubbed form, it hangs me up more than it should.

Jonathan
Guest

"Matt and Andrew recommend 44 Inch Chest as an actor showcase, especially if you like all these guys, you’ll get what you pay for, but it’s a smidgen shy of doing anything earth-shattering in the story department."

Yep, pretty much my feelings exactly.

Jonathan
Guest

Andrew, I didn't feel that way at all and I don't think that was the intent, although I see where they are coming from. Each of his friends seem to provide another perspective to whats going on and completely unique view to the situation, as if it is the inner conflict of Winstone's mind. I think that it was purposeful that it was written in this fashion, although I don't think the intent was to make people think they were all variations of his mind.

Jonathan
Admin

Interpretation is the beauty of art.

David Brook
Admin

I'm with Jandy on the Ghibli dubs. Dubbing in general is more acceptable with animation and in theory I don't mind it, but every time I've tried to watch a Ghibli film with American actors it just sounds/looks wrong and I'd agree with the fact that they sound bored in Mononoke and I too gave up after 10 minutes. I did however catch the end of Porco Rosso dubbed into English the other day and didn't mind it too much.

At the end of the day though, despite lip syncing being more forgiving in animation, when dubbing into a different language sacrifices still have to be made to fit the rhythm of the original language, so it's always going to compromised to some extent.

Chris
Guest

Grave of the Fireflies is the cinematic equivalent of a sledgehammer to the heart. It's one of a rare few movies I both loved and will never watch again.

Disney Pixar did a standout job on the dubbing of Mononoke and friends. I'd recommend the dubs to anyone who isn't already a dedicated viewer of animé. Otherwise I'd recommend both. I prefer the calmer English voicings, Its my Northern Canadian cultural bias, but I feel they give a greater weight to the films. The japanese voices remind me that I''m watching a cartoon, but they do go well with the often similarly supercharged imagey.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Hah. Just listened to the opening minute. Have I ever mentioned that I do very much HEART Ricky Jay! 🙂 – And think it is awesome that one of his characters shares my name, and in a P.T. Anderson flick no less! Go Boogie Nights!