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		<title>By: Jandy Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/12/22/review-nine/#comment-40506</link>
		<dc:creator>Jandy Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could&#039;ve cut out Kate Hudson&#039;s character and I would&#039;ve been fine. Split her screen time equally between Cruz and Kidman. I liked Kidman in her limited time, though (but I&#039;m an unashamed Kidman fan; I&#039;ll see her in anything, even when she does crap, which is way too often). Dench was great, but they could&#039;ve cut her number too, and given her more talk time.

Cotillard does get two songs, though, instead of just one - so she is a little more &quot;featured&quot; than the rest. But she had me hanging on her every glance well before that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could&#8217;ve cut out Kate Hudson&#8217;s character and I would&#8217;ve been fine. Split her screen time equally between Cruz and Kidman. I liked Kidman in her limited time, though (but I&#8217;m an unashamed Kidman fan; I&#8217;ll see her in anything, even when she does crap, which is way too often). Dench was great, but they could&#8217;ve cut her number too, and given her more talk time.</p>
<p>Cotillard does get two songs, though, instead of just one &#8211; so she is a little more &#8220;featured&#8221; than the rest. But she had me hanging on her every glance well before that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem with Cruz&#039; character (or any of them for that matter) is simply that there isn&#039;t enough screen time for any of them to develop into something interesting.  Dench was pretty awesome, but how great would it have been to spend another 20 minutes with her?  Same thing with Cruz and Kidman I think.  There were just too many characters and not enough time to dive into them all.  Or so it seems with me anyway.

And yet Cotillard with her equally limited screen time is simply stunning here.  Yes.  her and Peter Sarsgaard should just be in everything.  The world would be a better place ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem with Cruz&#8217; character (or any of them for that matter) is simply that there isn&#8217;t enough screen time for any of them to develop into something interesting.  Dench was pretty awesome, but how great would it have been to spend another 20 minutes with her?  Same thing with Cruz and Kidman I think.  There were just too many characters and not enough time to dive into them all.  Or so it seems with me anyway.</p>
<p>And yet Cotillard with her equally limited screen time is simply stunning here.  Yes.  her and Peter Sarsgaard should just be in everything.  The world would be a better place <img src='http://www.rowthree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jandy Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/12/22/review-nine/#comment-40496</link>
		<dc:creator>Jandy Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re on board with my plan to have every movie (except the stupid ones) star Marion Cotillard. Awesome! And yes, it is very pretty - hence why I clearly had difficulty narrowing down the screencap choices and ended up using way more than usual in the post.

I think Cruz&#039;s initial number turned me off a lot (obviously the opposite of its intention, heh), and made it difficult for me to look at the character as anything but oversexualized and a little whiny. Maybe I&#039;ll think differently on rewatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re on board with my plan to have every movie (except the stupid ones) star Marion Cotillard. Awesome! And yes, it is very pretty &#8211; hence why I clearly had difficulty narrowing down the screencap choices and ended up using way more than usual in the post.</p>
<p>I think Cruz&#8217;s initial number turned me off a lot (obviously the opposite of its intention, heh), and made it difficult for me to look at the character as anything but oversexualized and a little whiny. Maybe I&#8217;ll think differently on rewatch.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/12/22/review-nine/#comment-40458</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3/5

Pretty boring story and the music is really lackluster.  But man that set design, costuming and choreography is absolutely stunning!  Worth the watch just for that. You are right, Fergie&#039;s number is an absolute stand out.  The color and lighting and the choreography with the sand and the tambourines is simply devine on every level.

Next to Broken Embraces and The White Ribbon, this is the best &lt;em&gt;looking&lt;/em&gt; film of the year. Every shot is gorgeous.

Cotillard is brilliant.  I actually disagree with you about Cruz.  I thought she was pretty decent here, but you&#039;re right that Cotillard is the stand-out steals every scene - even from DDL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3/5</p>
<p>Pretty boring story and the music is really lackluster.  But man that set design, costuming and choreography is absolutely stunning!  Worth the watch just for that. You are right, Fergie&#8217;s number is an absolute stand out.  The color and lighting and the choreography with the sand and the tambourines is simply devine on every level.</p>
<p>Next to Broken Embraces and The White Ribbon, this is the best <em>looking</em> film of the year. Every shot is gorgeous.</p>
<p>Cotillard is brilliant.  I actually disagree with you about Cruz.  I thought she was pretty decent here, but you&#8217;re right that Cotillard is the stand-out steals every scene &#8211; even from DDL.</p>
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		<title>By: Jandy</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/12/22/review-nine/#comment-39123</link>
		<dc:creator>Jandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, thanks for the comment! The problem is that the story isn&#039;t really plot-driven, it&#039;s completely centered on Guido&#039;s character and his existential internal struggle to overcome his artistic dry spell. It perhaps works better for an admitted art film like 8 1/2 than for a musical like Nine, which you&#039;d expect to have more of a traditional plot (like Chicago did). There&#039;s not much that HAPPENS in the story - it&#039;s an exploration of Guido&#039;s relationships with the women in his life and how that affects his artistic capabilities.

The Victoria Secret runway-type thing bothered me the most in Penelope Cruz&#039;s number. And I guess in Kate Hudson&#039;s, but as soon as that song equated Fellini with neo-realism I tuned out completely. I thought Marion Cotillard&#039;s were quite well-done, and obviously Fergie&#039;s was a knockout. I&#039;m glad you mentioned the non-musical scenes, because there was a lot to enjoy there, too. I HATED Judi Dench&#039;s number, though. Most pointless thing in the film. I&#039;m plenty happy to have my Dame Judi not singing and dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, thanks for the comment! The problem is that the story isn&#8217;t really plot-driven, it&#8217;s completely centered on Guido&#8217;s character and his existential internal struggle to overcome his artistic dry spell. It perhaps works better for an admitted art film like 8 1/2 than for a musical like Nine, which you&#8217;d expect to have more of a traditional plot (like Chicago did). There&#8217;s not much that HAPPENS in the story &#8211; it&#8217;s an exploration of Guido&#8217;s relationships with the women in his life and how that affects his artistic capabilities.</p>
<p>The Victoria Secret runway-type thing bothered me the most in Penelope Cruz&#8217;s number. And I guess in Kate Hudson&#8217;s, but as soon as that song equated Fellini with neo-realism I tuned out completely. I thought Marion Cotillard&#8217;s were quite well-done, and obviously Fergie&#8217;s was a knockout. I&#8217;m glad you mentioned the non-musical scenes, because there was a lot to enjoy there, too. I HATED Judi Dench&#8217;s number, though. Most pointless thing in the film. I&#8217;m plenty happy to have my Dame Judi not singing and dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend and I saw this yesterday and I don&#039;t think there is enough for a good story in &quot;Nine&quot;.  I think the fault is in the original source material and not the performances or direction. I know that the source material has won Tony Awards but it doesn&#039;t grab me like &quot;Chicago&quot; did.  

Almost all the women perform their musical numbers as if they were on a Victoria Secrets runway. This is excellent from an eye-candy perspective but I got a little tired of it by the end. I don&#039;t know how it was handled for the Broadway production.

Fergie&#039;s number is definitely the standout.  The set for &quot;Be Italian&quot; was great and I loved the use of sand during that number.

I actually liked the movie better when the musical numbers weren&#039;t being performed.  The chemistry between Guido and Luisa and Guido and Lilli (Judi Dench&#039;s character) were great. And the shots of Italy, the spa, the cobble stone streets  - I love all that.  

I admit that I haven&#039;t seen Fellini&#039;s 8 1/2 so I don&#039;t know if I am missing something or not in relation to &quot;Nine&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend and I saw this yesterday and I don&#8217;t think there is enough for a good story in &#8220;Nine&#8221;.  I think the fault is in the original source material and not the performances or direction. I know that the source material has won Tony Awards but it doesn&#8217;t grab me like &#8220;Chicago&#8221; did.  </p>
<p>Almost all the women perform their musical numbers as if they were on a Victoria Secrets runway. This is excellent from an eye-candy perspective but I got a little tired of it by the end. I don&#8217;t know how it was handled for the Broadway production.</p>
<p>Fergie&#8217;s number is definitely the standout.  The set for &#8220;Be Italian&#8221; was great and I loved the use of sand during that number.</p>
<p>I actually liked the movie better when the musical numbers weren&#8217;t being performed.  The chemistry between Guido and Luisa and Guido and Lilli (Judi Dench&#8217;s character) were great. And the shots of Italy, the spa, the cobble stone streets  &#8211; I love all that.  </p>
<p>I admit that I haven&#8217;t seen Fellini&#8217;s 8 1/2 so I don&#8217;t know if I am missing something or not in relation to &#8220;Nine&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jandy Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/12/22/review-nine/#comment-38829</link>
		<dc:creator>Jandy Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt, you&#039;re not wrong about &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt; being big and loud, and I could fault it for that (in fact, that&#039;s a lot of what I didn&#039;t like about the first few numbers - they were unnecessarily big and loud when we didn&#039;t yet know what they were being big and loud ABOUT), but it pulled me in and made me not care. I&#039;ll admit some biases down here - &lt;em&gt;8 1/2&lt;/em&gt; is not my favorite Fellini film by a longshot, and though I saw it years ago, I didn&#039;t remember much of it until I rewatched it AFTER seeing &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt;. While watching &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt; I actually took several notes to the effect that &quot;I bet this was more subtle in the original&quot;, and I was surprised to find that in many cases, it actually wasn&#039;t. I&#039;ll also admit that despite the &lt;em&gt;Chicago&lt;/em&gt; backlash, I loved that film, and I refuse to apologize for it. I dunno. The music in &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt; isn&#039;t as memorable as &lt;em&gt;Chicago&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s (I wouldn&#039;t go around listening to the soundtrack), but I still enjoyed it.

And Marc, you&#039;re right, Anouk Aimee was great in &lt;em&gt;8 1/2&lt;/em&gt;, and I expect you may not like the more direct, less ambiguous way Luisa and Guido&#039;s relationship is portrayed in &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt;, but I actually liked it. I&#039;m ready to take heat for this, but &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt; is more satisfying than &lt;em&gt;8 1/2&lt;/em&gt; narratively - I know that &quot;satisfying&quot; isn&#039;t really what &lt;em&gt;8 1/2&lt;/em&gt; is going for, and that what it achieves is superior cinematically, but I&#039;d never pop &lt;em&gt;8 1/2&lt;/em&gt; in for fun some afternoon. I would &lt;em&gt;Nine&lt;/em&gt;. That&#039;s the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, you&#8217;re not wrong about <em>Nine</em> being big and loud, and I could fault it for that (in fact, that&#8217;s a lot of what I didn&#8217;t like about the first few numbers &#8211; they were unnecessarily big and loud when we didn&#8217;t yet know what they were being big and loud ABOUT), but it pulled me in and made me not care. I&#8217;ll admit some biases down here &#8211; <em>8 1/2</em> is not my favorite Fellini film by a longshot, and though I saw it years ago, I didn&#8217;t remember much of it until I rewatched it AFTER seeing <em>Nine</em>. While watching <em>Nine</em> I actually took several notes to the effect that &#8220;I bet this was more subtle in the original&#8221;, and I was surprised to find that in many cases, it actually wasn&#8217;t. I&#8217;ll also admit that despite the <em>Chicago</em> backlash, I loved that film, and I refuse to apologize for it. I dunno. The music in <em>Nine</em> isn&#8217;t as memorable as <em>Chicago</em>&#8216;s (I wouldn&#8217;t go around listening to the soundtrack), but I still enjoyed it.</p>
<p>And Marc, you&#8217;re right, Anouk Aimee was great in <em>8 1/2</em>, and I expect you may not like the more direct, less ambiguous way Luisa and Guido&#8217;s relationship is portrayed in <em>Nine</em>, but I actually liked it. I&#8217;m ready to take heat for this, but <em>Nine</em> is more satisfying than <em>8 1/2</em> narratively &#8211; I know that &#8220;satisfying&#8221; isn&#8217;t really what <em>8 1/2</em> is going for, and that what it achieves is superior cinematically, but I&#8217;d never pop <em>8 1/2</em> in for fun some afternoon. I would <em>Nine</em>. That&#8217;s the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Saint-Cyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Saint-Cyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anouk Aimee did a superb job playing Luisa in 8 1/2, but I can totally see Marion Cotillard matching her quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anouk Aimee did a superb job playing Luisa in 8 1/2, but I can totally see Marion Cotillard matching her quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Halfyard</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/12/22/review-nine/#comment-38820</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Halfyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be watching this one at some point, but it is a bit wince worthy that it looks almost like The Simpson parody musical version of Fellini&#039;s film.  &quot;8 1/2&quot; is most definitely a masterpiece and not without its own level of bombast, charm and scale, whereas this simply looks garish.  

As you said though, I think the film will likely be much easier to appreciate scene by scene rather than as a completely package.  I imagine the film is likely to say very little, but say it big and loudly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be watching this one at some point, but it is a bit wince worthy that it looks almost like The Simpson parody musical version of Fellini&#8217;s film.  &#8220;8 1/2&#8243; is most definitely a masterpiece and not without its own level of bombast, charm and scale, whereas this simply looks garish.  </p>
<p>As you said though, I think the film will likely be much easier to appreciate scene by scene rather than as a completely package.  I imagine the film is likely to say very little, but say it big and loudly.</p>
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