Comments on: Cinecast Episode 144 – Feeling a bit “Rusty”

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:46:30 +0000

well then this was a very nice episode. Although I haven’t actually seen any of the film you discussed. The show notes made it easy to skip over the Bad Lt segment. Hopefully that movie will open at a theater near me one day.

There could’ve been more Rusty James.

By: Kurt Halfyard

Kurt Halfyard — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:40:17 +0000

NO, no, andrew is just surly, pay it no mind. ALL FEEDBACK IS WELCOME!

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:33:32 +0000

I think you’re a little over sensitive to feedback Andrew.

By: Jonathan B.

Jonathan B. — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:16:26 +0000

Nice, Rusty. I was trying to figure out the reference myself. I’m betting on the show notes.

By: Andrew James

Andrew James — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:16:11 +0000

Because you threw such a fit about the time tracks. I took the extra time to mark them all out for you.
I think I *coughed* your name somewhere right at the beginning of the show.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:39:38 +0000

The next one can be called Everyone Loves Henrik.

By: Kurt Halfyard

Kurt Halfyard — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:58:58 +0000

Because We’ll make our readers listen to the podcast one at a time, even if we have to name episodes after them. Nah, we were a couple weeks without a show and Andrew dropped the show notes back into the program, perhaps that is the joke.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:57:33 +0000

So I listened to the episode. Why is it named after me?

By: kurt

kurt — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:24:34 +0000

I’m tracking him down. Yes.

By: Goon

Goon — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:21:33 +0000

“America are the good guys, the smartest guys and the ones in charge”

I don’t know, lately considering most of the country seems to make it clear they have no idea what socialism is but will march in the streets about it anyways, and that state after state is stepping up against gay rights, the last couple months I’m feeling like a typical anti-American hater.

I guess I’m looking for a 2012 movie where the public fight the earthquakes by calling them secret Muslims. Seems more accurate right now.

By: rot

rot — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:57:25 +0000

not surprised, at the TIFF showing of Collapse one guy was quite vocal about what a loon Ruppert is. He’s the kind of guy that gets people’s backs up. I am surprised there was a trailer of it before BL2, its not even guarenteed to be coming out yet, except to the Royal for a week run.

By: rot

rot — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:53:45 +0000

I’m well aware of Herzog’s repeated phrase ‘bliss of evil’ and as I said originally at TIFF, there is not enough bliss, and virtually no evil in BL2, Cage is just high most of the film, and behaving indiscreetly. A more apt phrase would be ‘mirth of indiscretion’ which sounds as bland as the film actually is.

By: Goon

Goon — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:48:10 +0000

I mentioned this on the FJ podcast, but after the Collapse trailer in front of BL2, some old dude tapped me on the shoulder and says “I heard that guys a real faggot”.

I assume/hope my stunned reaction is what put him into silence for the rest of the showing. Though I’d love to know how/through whom he would have heard such a thing, and in what context he meant ‘faggot’.

By: Goon

Goon — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:45:27 +0000

“The one I saw was pretty dull, and took its procedural aspects far too seriously” – rot

““The crime story is uninteresting. It is a marginal event in the film. It is more about an attitude of evil — or the bliss of evil, as I call it.” – Werner Herzog

Herzog didnt take the procedural seriously, he just took the filmmaking seriously, and in my opinion it balances out Cage’s performance. I didn’t think BL2 was nearly as cartoonish or crazy as I expected, but its a very fine film.

By: rot

rot — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:32:49 +0000

Kurt, you know Shane, or have a contact? You got to get him on the show, that would be great.

By: Marina Antunes

Marina Antunes — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:59:42 +0000

@rot – So who knew hubby’s fascinations with conspiracy theories would eventually pay off? I did still really enjoy COLLAPSE – the ideas were all laid out in a cohesive way, it all made sense and felt well flushed out but most of all it was compelling. Ruppert is a fascinating character and a compelling subject – he could probably sell oil even if there was none left.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:59:04 +0000

Carruth: That's funny. I called it "Primer" [with a short "i"] for the longest time, and people kept asking me how to spell it. But if I called it "Primer" [long "i"], they didn't ask. So I just started calling it "Primer" [long "i"].

By: Kurt

Kurt — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:31:12 +0000

OK, that settles it. I’ve been meaning to ask Shane Carruth to possibly join us for a show. I have never met him, but anyone who makes a movie like Primer, should fit right in.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000

Someone draw a diagram of how to pronounce Primer.

By: Andrew James

Andrew James — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:56:32 +0000

If the director calls it that, then that’s what it is. I kept trying to say we should email the director or writer and ask them the proper pronunciation but kept getting cut off.

By: rot

rot — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:34:58 +0000

I saw Primer at TIFF and the director in the Q&A called it Pr-I-mer like climber.

By: Jandy Stone

Jandy Stone — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:18:35 +0000

Emmerich did Stargate? Aw, I kinda liked that one. But it’s been a while.

By: rot

rot — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:10:44 +0000

On Collapse: let’s disclose, Marina, that you knew all of the stuff Ruppert was talking about because your husband is into conspiracy theories, I don’t think the stuff he talks about is common knowledge, anyone I have brought the topic up to has never even heard of Peak Oil. Which I admit is weird, because there have been some four documentaries on the subject prior to this, and there are a few books on the topic that are popular, but the difference is they often preach to the choir, they are categorized as eco-politics, and the fringe flock to them. What makes Collapse different is it is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, you go in for a character study and come out bombarded with eco-politics that by the reviews, virtually all of the critics have never heard of before.

By: Andrew James

Andrew James — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:10:00 +0000

I know you’re not saying you loved it or anything, but praising a re-hash of films you hate just baffles me. Maybe it’s simply your character actors you like or whatever, but this movie is no different than any of his other disaster films. It takes all of the shenanigans from every other picture he’s done and mashes them all together in a supposedly “worldly” destruction movie. Perhaps MORE hateful things makes it actually fall to the other side of the spectrum of likable?

And you guys ra-ra Candian movies ALL the time here, so what are you talking about? What’s wrong with making a movie that shows a little patriotism? And 2012 is pretty damn “America are the good guys, the smartest guys and the ones in charge” if you ask me. 2012 just tries to hide it a little bit better – which should be even more irksome to you than a from a movie titled INDEPENDENCE DAY!

By: rot

rot — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:49:22 +0000

thank-you Marina, you are the first person I have encountered since TIFF who is actually at least partially saying the emperor has no clothes with respects to Bad Lieutenant 2. Everyone coming out of TIFF was saying its batshit crazy, and I kept saying I wish I caught THAT film.
The one I saw was pretty dull, and took its procedural aspects far too seriously, and no, colouring outside the lines does not adequately describe what Herzog did here, because that labeling does not allow for an opportunity to say maybe he failed, maybe he experimented but experimenting alone does not make a good movie. There is a point where Modern Art has to be called out for being bullshit… its not enough that something merely deviates from the norm, breaks rules, defies classification, it has to amount to something, and the something of BL2 is NOT batshit crazy, its dull.