Comments on: Greatest Movie Poster Ever

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:40:37 +0000

Funnily, those are probably my two favorites. I laughed my ass off at The Boss of it All when I saw it. It wasn’t quite as good on second watching, but I think that’s because we used it up quoting it all the time.

By: Kurt Halfyard

Kurt Halfyard — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:20:18 +0000

Sadly, that one (Europa) remains a blank spot in my LvT filmography, along with The Boss of it All

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:00:15 +0000

America is a pretty big theme in my favorite movie of his, Europa.

By: rot

rot — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:58:27 +0000

I just rewatched Manderlay a couple weeks ago… surprised how much of it I forgot since theatrical viewing. Somehow it uses the same basic punchline of the first film but does it even better. Both viewings made me laugh out loud at the whole William Dafoe seeing how Grace is doing bit.

I really hope he finishes this trilogy.

By: Kurt Halfyard

Kurt Halfyard — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:46:51 +0000

I am putting together an Amazon order for a few films, and Manderlay is on the list, so I’m due for a revisit of both that and Dogville. I’m sure the theory will be on my brain while I watch it again.

I still remain skeptical in the theory, but would agree that America and Religion are themes in most of LvT’s films from Breaking The Waves onward….

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:22:39 +0000

So Kurt, any thoughts on my Dogville theory? Have I quelled your skepticism? Or am I just spinning my wheels like Mike Rot?

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:11:28 +0000

Touché!

By: Kurt

Kurt — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:16:43 +0000

Well, you would be wrong Henrik, Touché is often said in fencing not by the judge, but by the other fencer, the one that was hit, as if to say, yea, you got me, which in an optimistic and pleasant camaraderie can be easily stretched into “Good Show!”

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:38:13 +0000

How the hell does ‘Touché’ mean good show? It originated I believe, because in fencing whenever somebody got touched (which in fencing means you got owned and lost and you are now behind in score), the judge would say “Touché”. I sincerely doubt it would in any context mean “Good Show!”.

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:35:01 +0000

I was playing along with Rustys facetious joke (a pretty horrible joke, but who am I to ruin the fun). I also am not french Andrew .

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:24:05 +0000

I thought you meant that you were touched emotionally. hmm.

By: kurt

kurt — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:56:00 +0000

Rusty’s got it. “Good Show” or “Hit!” is the usual (and yes, in this case my intended usage)

By: Laura Desiree

Laura Desiree — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:06:17 +0000

fabulous poster.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:30:56 +0000

@ touché = “you win” or “I give up.” “Good show.” “Good comeback.”
Usually one would say this when defeated in a duel of words.

I was being facetious. It means “touched”. So Kurt was saying he found my remarks touching.

By: Andrew James

Andrew James — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:24:00 +0000

As for the Von Trier thing. I have not seen Dogville and I gave up on Manderlay half way through. Not a fan of that style. So I can’t comment – that’s why I “ignored” you.

By: Andrew James

Andrew James — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:22:57 +0000

Are you guys serious that you don’t know what touché means or are you being facetious (i.e. playing dumb) again?
I don’t know the literal translation but I’ll bite.

touché = “you win” or “I give up.” “Good show.” “Good comeback.”
Usually one would say this when defeated in a duel of words.

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:53:04 +0000

But if the people you are talking to are of the impression that your shoes are rubbish, even though you clearly do not think so, they might shut up out of sheer curtesy.

I think I should say at this point that I haven’t seen the movies you talk about, I saw the opening 20 minutes of Dogville and went to bed.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:47:44 +0000

yeah, but the point is that if you bring it up then you’re looking for some feedback. If no one says anything then you’re left wondering if anyone heard you.

obviously if you have rubbish shoes then you don’t bring it up.

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:44:15 +0000

“Like when you say “I got new shoes” but no one responds. So you end up repeating yourself again and again until finally someone says: “yes, new shoes! We get it!”.”

Some people wouldn’t bring it up unless somebody asked.

By: Henrik

Henrik — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:41:17 +0000

I can’t translate it, I have no idea what it means.

Well, Cries and Whispers (do you prefer the english title?) deals with tragedy, through a slow, stylized world where pain and grief hangs over the characters heads, and has disturbing scenes of self-mutilation. I wrote to mr. Trier after seing Antichrist, that I felt he had gotten the mood and the physicality of Cries and Whispers, now he only needed the depth. I find antichrist to be a shallow, gorgeus movie without any real human beings in it to make it truly relevant.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:56:05 +0000

And since you’re french could you please translate Kurt’s comment for me?

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:55:20 +0000

And yeah, I’m interested in hearing what people have to say about AntiChrist. Though I don’t have much to say myself. Like I said, I don’t really know what to think.

I did think of both Cries & Whispers and Persona as well.

What did you find to be the main parallels.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:53:19 +0000

@ So were you interested in talking about Antichrist, or just wanted another opportunity to spout off this theory for the millionth time? It’s getting a little old.

Well… I keep bringing it up but no one really acknowledges it either way. So I’m kind of forced to keep bringing it up.

Like when you say “I got new shoes” but no one responds. So you end up repeating yourself again and again until finally someone says: “yes, new shoes! We get it!”.
But if they just said “Oh yes, I see” in the first place then you wouldn’t have kept repeating yourself.

You see my dilemma.

It’s something I’d like to discuss but no one seems to have any opinion. So, Henrik what do you think about it?

By: Henrik

Henrik — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:12:46 +0000

“So, what’s the consensus on AntiChrist around here?”

“Honestly, I keep forgetting that the rest of the world has yet to catch up with me on this and realize that LVT’s America Trilogy is obviously a satirical take on Catholic Doctrine.”

So were you interested in talking about Antichrist, or just wanted another opportunity to spout off this theory for the millionth time? It’s getting a little old.

Antichrist for me was shocking and shaking (I saw it way back when, in december 08, without knowing anything but the director and the title, so no hypemachine, thank god), but fell well short of its obvious role model, Viskningar och rop.

By: Rusty James

Rusty James — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0000

I don’t speak french.