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The Het
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I cant download mp4's cause I have a piece of crap Sansa mp3 player. What can I do besides get an ipod???

John Allison
Editor

I'll see what I can do about this. It shouldn't be too much problem to convert them over to mp3. I was wondering why we were getting that huge box on the post for the audio. Now I know… and knowing is half the battle.

rot
Guest

Its an honor to have you here Mr.Het, your voice messages at Film Junk crack me up.

I'm thinking these on the fly mp4s were solely for the film festival and they would go back to their regular method, maybe I am wrong.

rot
Guest

On Bad Lieutenant Port of Call… one more time, I hear from you guys, film junk, the cinecast, everyone saying how batshit crazy this film goes, that Cage pulls all the stops and Herzog let's the pig loose and I still wonder what film you all saw.

If anything this movie reinforces my belief that Herzog is too earnest to pull this kind of alleged craziness… the film is slow, it drags its feet, it takes the procedural police drama aspect way too seriously, there is maybe two or three crescendo points in the entire film, that are a relief when they come but are few and far between. Cage is not THAT bad, there is no 'bliss of evil' because he is not evil in the film, he is high, thats it. Allegedly Cage improvised the only crazy rant in the film, where he threatens the old lady, this to me is two competing ideologies at work, the zaniness of Cage wanting to let go and Herzog trying to be unrestrained but falling back on a kind of naive earnestness he is known for. Instead of batshit crazy we have scenes with an ailing father and drunk mother, we have Cage talking about his childhood, we have very empty interrogation scenes, we have confrontations like the John who knows people that goes absolutely nowhere, if ever there was an invitation to craziness, it was in that scene.

Kurt
Guest

Shoot Rot again, his soul will not dance.

*POTENTIAL SPOILERS*

Cage IS evil in that his entire motivation is to get high, even when he has a pregnant wife, things work out for him, etc. etc., he is still only interested in getting high. He is lucky that all of his anti-procedural shenanigans do not cost him anything, perhaps the phrase should be 'banality of evil' not 'bliss of evil' -> but c'mon Rot, he practically rapes a guys girlfriend in front of her for her to get 'let-off' in a minor possession charge. That is pretty evil, and the scene is played for laughs. If this film didn't have any hype behind it and existed in the 1970s as sort of an anti-FrenchConnection or something it would indeed be a cult item today.

rot
Guest

*POTENTIAL SPOILERS*

it isn't rape though, she practically initiates it. I agree banality of evil would have been more appropriate.

Jonathan
Admin

It isn't rape though, I mean, did you see the way she was dressed? She was begging for it.

Mike Rot
Member

in this case, quite literally yes.

Mike Rot
Member

actually come to think of it this happens throughout BL2 and I have to believe it is intentional on Herzog's part but I do not know what it means…

Virtually every scene leaves the door open for Cage to go nuts, to really give in to 'the bliss of evil', but he rarely at all does, he is still a relatively conscientious person who is just impaired. spoilers ahead. The first scene he could of let the person drown but he doesn't, his neglect of the witness is not intentional, nor does it end in tragedy, his confrontation with the John goes nowhere, his first confrontation with the John's mafia friends goes nowhere, his behavior towards his boss and those investigating him is relatively respectful, he does seem intent on solving the case in the film, when he tries to do something as trivial as get his bookie's parking tickets revoked, and has to confront the cop who stands up to him, he does nothing, then the alleged rape, which is more provoked by the woman trying to get off the charge than Cage, the interrogation scenes never go over the edge. Not to mention I see absolutely no point for this being in Post-Katrina New Orleans, there is so much they could have played off of, and aside from a few reptiles thats it.

The film feels like it is forever putting on the breaks, and rarely gets momentum.

Kurt
Guest

Doesn't GET LOW also mean 'to take account' of , which is really pretty much what the movie is about.

Great movie. A real surprise at this years fest.

Mike Rot
Member

for what its worth, Herzog on Q CBC podcast says he is not a satirist. with Bad Lieutenant Port of Call I think calling it satire is qualifying something that it isn't. The films of Herzog seem disinterested in subtext, they are about whatever instinctively Herzog feels ought to resonate, a very naive (and I mean that positively) earnestness.

I just think with BL2 he got carried away and his myopic focus on what interested him in the end didn't make for something all that interesting. With the exception of Cobra Verde I have loved everything I have seen by him, so I am really stunned by how little these last two films impacted me.

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