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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30503</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try, I am an emotional being though. But I have laid out arguments before. In this thread, the arguments had all been laid out, and I just joined the fray.

Whenever you receive an email, ask the sender if he minds sending it to me instead? If they do, then nothing I can do, but I can&#039;t do much about it when I don&#039;t even know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try, I am an emotional being though. But I have laid out arguments before. In this thread, the arguments had all been laid out, and I just joined the fray.</p>
<p>Whenever you receive an email, ask the sender if he minds sending it to me instead? If they do, then nothing I can do, but I can&#8217;t do much about it when I don&#8217;t even know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30502</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes it hard to have a conversation with you Henrik, and why I receive so many emails (not as many lately) is that you are unable or unwilling to discuss or debate in a civil manner.  If it&#039;s a statement or argument you don&#039;t like, instead of stating why it&#039;s a bad idea, you just call the other person a simpleton or an idiot (or you do both).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes it hard to have a conversation with you Henrik, and why I receive so many emails (not as many lately) is that you are unable or unwilling to discuss or debate in a civil manner.  If it&#8217;s a statement or argument you don&#8217;t like, instead of stating why it&#8217;s a bad idea, you just call the other person a simpleton or an idiot (or you do both).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30501</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;constantly trying to talk about stuff that you don’t understand.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I was an astronomy major at University.  And aside from the math, did pretty well at it too. So I think I have a better grasp on the Universe at large than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;constantly trying to talk about stuff that you don’t understand.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I was an astronomy major at University.  And aside from the math, did pretty well at it too. So I think I have a better grasp on the Universe at large than you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30500</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yeah, I am being inhumanely harsh and an asshole towards you. I feel worse about it than I would have in the past, but fuck, some things you just don&#039;t let slide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yeah, I am being inhumanely harsh and an asshole towards you. I feel worse about it than I would have in the past, but fuck, some things you just don&#8217;t let slide.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30499</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on everything we know about humans, the visible universe, our ability to understand it and the way it is out together, the only logical conclusion is that it is as probable as it is improbably that things that make no sense to us exist in the universe.

Andrew, you&#039;re a simpleton. If only you were cute and lovable, but you&#039;re constantly trying to talk about stuff that you don&#039;t understand. Can you see how that is frustrating to people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on everything we know about humans, the visible universe, our ability to understand it and the way it is out together, the only logical conclusion is that it is as probable as it is improbably that things that make no sense to us exist in the universe.</p>
<p>Andrew, you&#8217;re a simpleton. If only you were cute and lovable, but you&#8217;re constantly trying to talk about stuff that you don&#8217;t understand. Can you see how that is frustrating to people?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30495</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Henrik, finding it &lt;em&gt;improbable&lt;/em&gt; that aliens wouldn&#039;t know what water is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; an example of short-sightedness. I&#039;m pretty sure somewhere in that thread I agreed with you that yes, it is &lt;em&gt;possible&lt;/em&gt; this could be the case; but highly, highly unlikely.  I think it&#039;s more short-sighted of you to think that that is actually &lt;em&gt;probable&lt;/em&gt; - i.e. ignoring pretty much everything we know scientifically about the visible universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Henrik, finding it <em>improbable</em> that aliens wouldn&#8217;t know what water is <em>not</em> an example of short-sightedness. I&#8217;m pretty sure somewhere in that thread I agreed with you that yes, it is <em>possible</em> this could be the case; but highly, highly unlikely.  I think it&#8217;s more short-sighted of you to think that that is actually <em>probable</em> &#8211; i.e. ignoring pretty much everything we know scientifically about the visible universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30493</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;...people without health insurance weren’t raised right.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

lol

http://www.rowthree.com/2009/02/13/rewatched-and-reconsidered-crash/comment-page-4/#comment-24800</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;people without health insurance weren’t raised right.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>lol</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rowthree.com/2009/02/13/rewatched-and-reconsidered-crash/comment-page-4/#comment-24800" rel="nofollow">http://www.rowthree.com/2009/02/13/rewatched-and-reconsidered-crash/comment-page-4/#comment-24800</a></p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30492</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do believe I too am part of the “stupid” community&quot;

You understand what I said. Sorry to be so unclear, I was trying to be humourous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do believe I too am part of the “stupid” community&#8221;</p>
<p>You understand what I said. Sorry to be so unclear, I was trying to be humourous.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30491</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Am I shortsighted because I find it improbable that aliens would not know what H2O is, or is it for other reasons?&quot;

It&#039;s mainly your pathetic political stance, like when you say that people without health insurance weren&#039;t raised right. But the Signs debate definitely exposes your inability to understand the limits of you as an individual, and human beings as a species. Which is shortsightedness.

I wish all of these emails would be sent to me, so that I could defend myself properly. Seems pretty underhanded to just throw in my face that email after email complain about me, how am I supposed to take that? They may be valid complaints, they may be youtube comment-style complaints. But I guess if that many people think it, it must be the truth, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Am I shortsighted because I find it improbable that aliens would not know what H2O is, or is it for other reasons?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s mainly your pathetic political stance, like when you say that people without health insurance weren&#8217;t raised right. But the Signs debate definitely exposes your inability to understand the limits of you as an individual, and human beings as a species. Which is shortsightedness.</p>
<p>I wish all of these emails would be sent to me, so that I could defend myself properly. Seems pretty underhanded to just throw in my face that email after email complain about me, how am I supposed to take that? They may be valid complaints, they may be youtube comment-style complaints. But I guess if that many people think it, it must be the truth, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30490</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I may be stupid, but all of these people are stupid as well! We will be stupid and happy together, and guess what? THEY GET PAID! So stay in your smart-box and be smart, and we’ll be stupid and happy and rich together. I won.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Maybe I&#039;m incorrectly reading what you&#039;re trying to say here, Henrik, but I do believe I too am part of the &quot;stupid&quot; community of which you speak based on what this thread is regarding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I may be stupid, but all of these people are stupid as well! We will be stupid and happy together, and guess what? THEY GET PAID! So stay in your smart-box and be smart, and we’ll be stupid and happy and rich together. I won.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m incorrectly reading what you&#8217;re trying to say here, Henrik, but I do believe I too am part of the &#8220;stupid&#8221; community of which you speak based on what this thread is regarding.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30489</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I shortsighted because I find it improbable that aliens would not know what H2O is, or is it for other reasons? And how come it is that I (and other web masters I keep in touch with) get email after email about how much of an idiot and inwardly thinking &lt;strong&gt;Henrik&lt;/strong&gt; is, yet I don&#039;t generally see these complaints about &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt; anywhere?  Oh right, because pointing to evidence around the web based on what happens when the masses are involved is not actually evidence of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I shortsighted because I find it improbable that aliens would not know what H2O is, or is it for other reasons? And how come it is that I (and other web masters I keep in touch with) get email after email about how much of an idiot and inwardly thinking <strong>Henrik</strong> is, yet I don&#8217;t generally see these complaints about <em>me</em> anywhere?  Oh right, because pointing to evidence around the web based on what happens when the masses are involved is not actually evidence of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30486</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I simply pointed out that there are hundreds of other ignorant fools out there on several high profile sites.&quot;

I may be stupid, but all of these people are stupid as well! We will be stupid and happy together, and guess what? THEY GET PAID! So stay in your smart-box and be smart, and we&#039;ll be stupid and happy and rich together. I won.

I think it was Terry Gilliam who called Watchmen unfilmable. I guess maybe lazy writers all over the internet has just taken that term to a valid stance on Watchmen in general, especially when the movie was about to be released.

I do agree that Andrew tends to be an idiot. Shortsighted, narrowminded and lacking in insight. It just sucks that he doesn&#039;t agree, and it ends up being a witchhunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I simply pointed out that there are hundreds of other ignorant fools out there on several high profile sites.&#8221;</p>
<p>I may be stupid, but all of these people are stupid as well! We will be stupid and happy together, and guess what? THEY GET PAID! So stay in your smart-box and be smart, and we&#8217;ll be stupid and happy and rich together. I won.</p>
<p>I think it was Terry Gilliam who called Watchmen unfilmable. I guess maybe lazy writers all over the internet has just taken that term to a valid stance on Watchmen in general, especially when the movie was about to be released.</p>
<p>I do agree that Andrew tends to be an idiot. Shortsighted, narrowminded and lacking in insight. It just sucks that he doesn&#8217;t agree, and it ends up being a witchhunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30482</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, how did you think the 3D fared?  Did you enjoy it or was it a distraction?  I&#039;ve heard that it dims the brightness of the images, but I saw 2D so...

/curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, how did you think the 3D fared?  Did you enjoy it or was it a distraction?  I&#8217;ve heard that it dims the brightness of the images, but I saw 2D so&#8230;</p>
<p>/curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Muttoo</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30480</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Muttoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw it in 3D!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it in 3D!</p>
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		<title>By: rot</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30479</link>
		<dc:creator>rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah your evidence about all these people &#039;attempting&#039; to make Watchmen only further proves how potentially unfilmable it is.  That it was attempted is because of the pedigree of the source material, the clamoring by comic fans, not because &#039;boy this would really make a good movie&#039;.  I don&#039;t think the film succeeded directly because it was too loyal to the source material and that made it lag and not to mention kind of lame in the third act (which makes more sense within the context of a graphic novel than on a big screen).  

Insofar as you are going to stay loyal to the literary source material there are a lot of things you could say are unfilmable, I don&#039;t see that as lazy, just an acknowledgement of the limitations of both mediums.  Hell the creator of Watchmen has been saying this as well, he made Watchmen specifically to do all the stuff that serves the medium it is being told in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah your evidence about all these people &#8216;attempting&#8217; to make Watchmen only further proves how potentially unfilmable it is.  That it was attempted is because of the pedigree of the source material, the clamoring by comic fans, not because &#8216;boy this would really make a good movie&#8217;.  I don&#8217;t think the film succeeded directly because it was too loyal to the source material and that made it lag and not to mention kind of lame in the third act (which makes more sense within the context of a graphic novel than on a big screen).  </p>
<p>Insofar as you are going to stay loyal to the literary source material there are a lot of things you could say are unfilmable, I don&#8217;t see that as lazy, just an acknowledgement of the limitations of both mediums.  Hell the creator of Watchmen has been saying this as well, he made Watchmen specifically to do all the stuff that serves the medium it is being told in.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30477</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ I NEVER said Watchmen is unfilmable

sigh

@ It’s because it’s an unfilmable movie and should never have been made. By all accounts from EVERYONE so far on this site talking about it, it is mediocre at absolute best and shitty shitty bang bang at worst.

http://www.rowthree.com/2009/03/10/cinecast-episode-114-the-major-league-solution/#comment-26991

When you said rot&#039;s the only person who gets what your saying, were you counting yourself? Because it doesn&#039;t even seem like you read your own posts.
Just write more carefully and stuff like this won&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ I NEVER said Watchmen is unfilmable</p>
<p>sigh</p>
<p>@ It’s because it’s an unfilmable movie and should never have been made. By all accounts from EVERYONE so far on this site talking about it, it is mediocre at absolute best and shitty shitty bang bang at worst.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rowthree.com/2009/03/10/cinecast-episode-114-the-major-league-solution/#comment-26991" rel="nofollow">http://www.rowthree.com/2009/03/10/cinecast-episode-114-the-major-league-solution/#comment-26991</a></p>
<p>When you said rot&#8217;s the only person who gets what your saying, were you counting yourself? Because it doesn&#8217;t even seem like you read your own posts.<br />
Just write more carefully and stuff like this won&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30476</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yer reachin&#039; andrew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yer reachin&#8217; andrew.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30475</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;even though Gilliam, Greengrass and Snyder all worked on actual Watchmen productions.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Did these people succeed or fail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;even though Gilliam, Greengrass and Snyder all worked on actual Watchmen productions.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Did these people succeed or fail?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30474</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that it is indeed impossible to prove, but I humbly suggest two novels that are most likely unfilmable (and I&#039;m not liberally applying this, they just wouldn&#039;t likely work on film from their strange sense of humour and unusual characters):  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Confederacy-Dunces-John-Kennedy-Toole/dp/0807130087/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1244092506&amp;sr=1-3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Confederacy of Dunces&lt;/a&gt; (and at one point this was a Wil Ferrell starring film directed by David Gordon Green; at an even earlier point, Harold Ramis Directed starring John Candy and Richard Pryor)...Neither made it thru the production process, but I would have loved to see both of &#039;em.

The other would be Robert Coover&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Pinocchio-Venice-Coover-Robert/dp/0802134858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pinocchio In Venice&lt;/a&gt;.  Heck, just about any Coover novel would never be properly adapted to the screen due to his odd writing styles, subject matter and overall novel construction.

...I&#039;d still love to see some filmmaker have the balls to try though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that it is indeed impossible to prove, but I humbly suggest two novels that are most likely unfilmable (and I&#8217;m not liberally applying this, they just wouldn&#8217;t likely work on film from their strange sense of humour and unusual characters):  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Confederacy-Dunces-John-Kennedy-Toole/dp/0807130087/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1244092506&#038;sr=1-3" rel="nofollow">A Confederacy of Dunces</a> (and at one point this was a Wil Ferrell starring film directed by David Gordon Green; at an even earlier point, Harold Ramis Directed starring John Candy and Richard Pryor)&#8230;Neither made it thru the production process, but I would have loved to see both of &#8216;em.</p>
<p>The other would be Robert Coover&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pinocchio-Venice-Coover-Robert/dp/0802134858" rel="nofollow">Pinocchio In Venice</a>.  Heck, just about any Coover novel would never be properly adapted to the screen due to his odd writing styles, subject matter and overall novel construction.</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;d still love to see some filmmaker have the balls to try though.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30473</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rot seems to be the only person understanding what I am saying.  He seems to also be the only one differentiating the Wall-e thing and the unfilmable thing as two completely separate issues.  We are on completely the same page. 

For the unfilmable thing, I think the problem here is that you guys are confusing opinion with fact.  Watchmen being unfilmable is an opinion.  Many many people claiming that the film is unfilmable is a fact.  Which is all I said.  I NEVER said Watchmen is unfilmable.  I said that the general populous opinion was that it is unfilmable and if that is the case, it may explain why the movie didn&#039;t work for some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rot seems to be the only person understanding what I am saying.  He seems to also be the only one differentiating the Wall-e thing and the unfilmable thing as two completely separate issues.  We are on completely the same page. </p>
<p>For the unfilmable thing, I think the problem here is that you guys are confusing opinion with fact.  Watchmen being unfilmable is an opinion.  Many many people claiming that the film is unfilmable is a fact.  Which is all I said.  I NEVER said Watchmen is unfilmable.  I said that the general populous opinion was that it is unfilmable and if that is the case, it may explain why the movie didn&#8217;t work for some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gamble</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30468</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Rusty that the term &quot;unfilmable&quot; is applied far to liberally, not to mention the definition of it is subject to revisionism depending on the person saying it. Money, special effects, story structure, star power etc can all result in a film being considered &quot;unfilmable&quot;. I tend to see it as a pretty lazy label to use and essentially impossible to prove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Rusty that the term &#8220;unfilmable&#8221; is applied far to liberally, not to mention the definition of it is subject to revisionism depending on the person saying it. Money, special effects, story structure, star power etc can all result in a film being considered &#8220;unfilmable&#8221;. I tend to see it as a pretty lazy label to use and essentially impossible to prove.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30467</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ But fine. I am the only one who ever said Watchmen was an unfilmable comic.

I don&#039;t understand you Andrew. clearly this issue is about something very different to you than it is to me. To me it has nothing to do with how many people happen to believe the book is unfilmible.

You probably aren&#039;t interested in my opinion as I&#039;ve actually read the book (probably more than 10 times) and seen the movie. But I&#039;ve always considered the book a difficult job to adapt for reasons that go far beyond length, pirates and squid vaginas.
I may not have liked the movie that much but I was impressed some of the choices they made and a lot of the stuff they at least attempted to adapt. 
For all its faults it&#039;s at least ambitious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ But fine. I am the only one who ever said Watchmen was an unfilmable comic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand you Andrew. clearly this issue is about something very different to you than it is to me. To me it has nothing to do with how many people happen to believe the book is unfilmible.</p>
<p>You probably aren&#8217;t interested in my opinion as I&#8217;ve actually read the book (probably more than 10 times) and seen the movie. But I&#8217;ve always considered the book a difficult job to adapt for reasons that go far beyond length, pirates and squid vaginas.<br />
I may not have liked the movie that much but I was impressed some of the choices they made and a lot of the stuff they at least attempted to adapt.<br />
For all its faults it&#8217;s at least ambitious.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30466</link>
		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont care if Watchmen was considered unfilmable or not and kind of have been ignoring whatever argument that&#039;s about.

But calling an opinion &quot;common knowledge&quot; doesn&#039;t seem correct to me, isn&#039;t it simply &quot;common opinion&quot;?  My whole nitpicking all along is that the only reason for listing off a zillion other people holding the same opinion is to say &quot;Well at least I&#039;m not the only person who thinks X&quot;, which I see now that Andrew probably meant.

But I don&#039;t accept showing the existence of it being common opinion as anything therefore being true.  I&#039;m arguing from a &quot;Debate Nerd&quot; standpoint regarding fallacies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont care if Watchmen was considered unfilmable or not and kind of have been ignoring whatever argument that&#8217;s about.</p>
<p>But calling an opinion &#8220;common knowledge&#8221; doesn&#8217;t seem correct to me, isn&#8217;t it simply &#8220;common opinion&#8221;?  My whole nitpicking all along is that the only reason for listing off a zillion other people holding the same opinion is to say &#8220;Well at least I&#8217;m not the only person who thinks X&#8221;, which I see now that Andrew probably meant.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t accept showing the existence of it being common opinion as anything therefore being true.  I&#8217;m arguing from a &#8220;Debate Nerd&#8221; standpoint regarding fallacies.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty James</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30465</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anyone who says Watchmen was not thought to be unfilmable prior to the film coming out by a majority is playing Devil’s Advocate,

It certianly wasn&#039;t &quot;common knowledge&quot; among the studios and film makers all working to produce the Watchmen film over the past several years.

But that&#039;s sort of besides the point. I don&#039;t have some objection to anyone opining that they think it&#039;s unfilmable (although I think that term is over applied). I did think the way Andrew went about making the point in that other thread was rather silly and didn&#039;t make much sense. That&#039;s all I ever said on the subject.
Now the two of you are on some misguided quest to prove that it&#039;s a fact that everyone believed watchmen was unfilmable. I guess it&#039;s on of those things &quot;everyone knows&quot; even though Gilliam, Greengrass and Snyder all worked on actual Watchmen productions. Maybe everyone new except them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anyone who says Watchmen was not thought to be unfilmable prior to the film coming out by a majority is playing Devil’s Advocate,</p>
<p>It certianly wasn&#8217;t &#8220;common knowledge&#8221; among the studios and film makers all working to produce the Watchmen film over the past several years.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s sort of besides the point. I don&#8217;t have some objection to anyone opining that they think it&#8217;s unfilmable (although I think that term is over applied). I did think the way Andrew went about making the point in that other thread was rather silly and didn&#8217;t make much sense. That&#8217;s all I ever said on the subject.<br />
Now the two of you are on some misguided quest to prove that it&#8217;s a fact that everyone believed watchmen was unfilmable. I guess it&#8217;s on of those things &#8220;everyone knows&#8221; even though Gilliam, Greengrass and Snyder all worked on actual Watchmen productions. Maybe everyone new except them.</p>
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		<title>By: rot</title>
		<link>http://www.rowthree.com/2009/06/02/r3view-up/#comment-30464</link>
		<dc:creator>rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its okay to source Rotten Tomatoes or some kind of internet consensus to argue the common knowledge of something, which I believe Andrew was doing.

and he was called an idiot by the unspecified Matt, and he responded with the common knowledge argument to show he wasn&#039;t alone in his opinion, which is a way to say if I am an idiot than the majority of people are... except, yeah, probably the majority are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its okay to source Rotten Tomatoes or some kind of internet consensus to argue the common knowledge of something, which I believe Andrew was doing.</p>
<p>and he was called an idiot by the unspecified Matt, and he responded with the common knowledge argument to show he wasn&#8217;t alone in his opinion, which is a way to say if I am an idiot than the majority of people are&#8230; except, yeah, probably the majority are.</p>
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