kidding, I wouldn’t even know what end of a podcast to talk into.

Keep up the good chatter.

**SPOILERS AHEAD***

The ward stuff is simply too brutal for some people to handle and I think there is a level of denial for some audience members that this just couldn’t/wouldn’t happen. I can see why someone might think Bernal’s character is not believable or realistic. I disagree completely. While I would never do anything like this, there are jerks in this world. Put a jerk in those circumstances and he becomes a jerk times 100. Desperation can turn people into animals very quickly – particularly if they’re not only desperate, but scared shitless.

The frustration level didn’t set it as much as it did last time either. The brutality doesn’t go on for quite as long as I remember. The war starts up more quickly than I thought.

But again, once we leave the ward is when this film really takes off with revelation, joy and much food for thought. The rain sequence, the store basement, the dog and just the entire scene and state of the city in general is all breathtaking.

Then there is the style of the entire film. It reminds me of those old 16th century paintings or something. Washed out, brutal and human nature at its worst and/or at its best.

I love the fact that no character has a name and we have no idea where this takes place. It is total fiction; a fable; an alegory – and everything points to that fact, but it does it in a very slippery way.

Easily one of the best films of 2008.

Jesus fucking christ guys, this is a Clerks-esque details question to keep the conversation alive, and you’re getting all defensive about it, as if its the tiny missle that takes out the Death Star.

But for the record, I thought it was an apartment, why would you keep a key on the porch?

I’d rather people get hung up on the ideas in a plot-movie than get hung up on the plot in an ideas movie. Blindness is the latter.

this is someone who knew the entire story from the book or an online plot synopsis/something like that and thus had detailed, more specific questions.

and you didnt answer the question

“uh, they had their keys?”

“what?”

“their keys”

“what?”

“um..”

“are you sure?”

“i’ll have to ask everyone else…”

“because that seems retarded”

“yeah. I’ll ask”

And the Religulous thread that crossed over from film junk to here.

LOVED loved CORALINE! Too bad you guys are not feeling the 3D, hardly necessary for this film though, but thankfully I don’t get headaches or sore noses.

I’m also sold on THE SARAGOSSA MANUSCRIPT, just Zip’ed it.

and who can forget Milk?

I saw a great trailer for Frozen River but it’s been off my radar for a while, I’ll check it out.

I think once things on the outside got too crazy, quarantining people and continuing to try and put them somewhere became zero priority. They were forgotten. If the virus took off as fast as we are led to believe, this is completely possible and more than like probable. I can’t wait to revisit this movie.

Yup, exactly and I stand by that. It was the one thing that bugged me a little bit, but I can overlook it. Or, I can actually look at it in a positive way. Maybe giving me what I wanted (Ward one to declare war and attack) would’ve ruined the experience for me. Maybe the frustration I felt was intentional – if that’s the case, then job well done.

Agreed. The experience in the wards didn’t necessarily make them better survivors, but it made them more human and able to take care of each other and be able to live with the blindness somewhat happily. But I think this kinship could have developed without raping everyone and then burning down the place. I thought it was great that this core of people stuck together, and they really did well with it once they got out, but they really didn’t do enough to knit them together in the wards, spending valuable time responding to that ridiculous crisis.