Cinecast 77 – February Blows Hard and Cold


This Episode:
Recent viewings, a director profile and a new Top 5 list for Clooney junkies.

Unwrap the complete Show Notes…

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Show notes for Cinecast Episode #77

  • Intro music: :00 – 2:44
  • Opening chatter: :32 – 4:15
  • Recent viewings: 4:16 – 42:48
    – -Juno, Cloverfield, Nanking, Rambo, Michael Clayton, The Good German

  • Steven Soderbergh: 42:49 – 55:25
  • Top 5 George Clooney films: 55:27 – 1:24:51
  • DVD picks: 1:24:53 – 1:33:56
  • Closing thoughts: 1:33:57 – 1:47:01
  • Outro music: 1:44:35 – 1:48:41

Bumper Music by “Pink Floyd” and “Shivaree”


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Hodge-podge of recent viewings:

Juno: revisited
Cloverfield: revisited
Nanking
– – The Laramie Project
Rambo
Michael Clayton
The Good German


Director profile – Steven Soderbergh:

Hi.  I’m Steven Soderbergh.  You’re nobody.
Here’s my kick-ass filmography


Gus Van Sandt’s PARANOID PARK trailer:


Top 5 George Clooney Movies:

Andrew:
5) From Dusk til Dawn
4) The Thin Red Line (or The Good German)
3) Three Kings
2) Ocean’s 11
1) O, Brother Where Art Thou?

Kurt:
5) From Dusk til Dawn
4) Solaris
3) Michael Clayton
2) O, Brother Where Art Thou?
1) Out of Sight


DVD mentions for Tuesday, February 5th

Kurt:
Great World of Sound
Great World of Sound

Andrew:
Casey Affleck should be up for best LEAD performance at the Oscars… not supporting actor.  It’s bullshit.
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

Other DVDs this week:
2 Days in Paris
Across the Universe
Descent
The Brave One – two BIG thumbs up from both of us.


Our reviews for any films mentioned in the show:
Juno
Cloverfield
Michael Clayton
Rambo
There Will Be Blood
Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
2 Days in Paris
The Brave One
Gone Baby Gone
The Lookout
Across the Universe
Alzheimer Case
Atonement

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kurt@rowthree.com
– – Kurt’s BLOG: screener this week was: The Alzheimer Case (aka Memory of a Killer)

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Goon
Guest

first notes with more to come:

– Juno: that reminds me Andrew, I heard you on FilmSpotting this past week making fun of it and defending Cloverfield, and I agree with your call there.

I dont know about that show sometimes, they produce it well and they make their case… I just think their case is kind of ridiculous sometimes. I'm not sure if its a snobby film school thing, or an actor thing, or if Matty Ballgame really is that much of a dickhead (he's at least somewhat of a genuine dickhead), or the fact that they're both somewhat secretly quite religious… but the way they bash certain films and give other ones a pass… I mean they pretty much hate Wes Anderson and ALWAYS give a thumbs up to all of his clones and influenced directors…

anyways…

the object falling into the water in Cloverfield isnt after the credits, its in the last shot on Coney Island. Good call on the 9/11 documentary feel, I have that DVD and as much as its completely meant for TV, the long stretches of silence where they let the footage speak for itself is absolutely mindblowing. Watching that camera kip up and keep moving after being in the tower as it fell, if THAT was presented as a moment in Cloverfield, people would claim that it would never ever happen… and yet it did.

Henrik
Guest

"Cinecast 77 – February Blows Hard and Cold" Should have added George Clooney in there, since if anybody is getting blown on this show it's him!

Screwball.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

I was totally out of it during our recording session. Screwball! A genre that just doesn't get much love these days outside of David O. Russell and the Coen's "Intolerable Cruelty". I want more of these Preston Sturges-esque throw-backs. And Clooney seems to do these well.

And yes, we really, really like George, or as we call him in the Row-Three Offices, "The Cloon-ster"

πŸ™‚

rot
Guest

my new campaign: fuck Tarkovsky. Kurt you are out of your mind, Solaris is the biggest waste of time, and the most bloated relentless bore I have seen. The Mirror, Andrei Rubelev are a bit better but exhausting and far too precious. I just remember the scene(s) in Solaris where he kept cutting back to the Bosch(or was it Breugel) painting, and he cuts back to it like seven or eight times, and it is overkill, the whole film is overkill.

and Henrik, add Soderbergh to the blown list… another guy I just do not get the love for… he occassionaly makes a solid film (The Limey, Sex Lies and Videotape, Ocean's Eleven, Out of Sight) but these are offset by the clunkers he has made, to which I include the rest of the Ocean films, Bubble, Traffic, Erin Brokovich… yawn.

ok… i guess i should finish listening to the cinecast now.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Soderbergh's great because he straddles the line between art-film, genre film and populist film. Not many can walk that line well (ahem – Peter Weir, The Coens, Robert Altman-if-i-stretch-it).

Admittedly Sex, Lies and Videotape has not aged as well as it could have.

I love the overall mood and tone in Solaris. For that alone, it's a winner, and must-see Sci-Fi for the strange planet and morality-concepts explored throughout. I haven't explored Tarkovsky all that deeply, although I know he has his supporters and detractors.

rot – thoughts on Stalker, his other Sci-Fi picture?

Henrik
Guest

When I was growing up I watched From Dusk Till Dawn constantly, and I thought Seth Gecko was a badass. All I wanted was tattoos up my neck, and a gun to hold sideways. I can't watch that film anymore. His constant pandering, and increasingly akward attempts of being self-deprecating in every single way to make people like him, has made me cold towards him and his acting. Especially since he flips out when people call him on his hipocrisy, doing ads for alcohol etc. Even on the oscar roundtable thing, he has to apologize for them complaining about the press, and go on a typical "Don't get me wrong!" speech about how he is so concerned that this may sound like people who are well of who are complaining. Whatever man, why don't you tell us how you feel and stick by it? Defend yourself after you're attacked will you?

I mean I get his appeal as far as looks go, in that Cary Grant sort of way, but no way does he have the same amount of screen presence. He tries way too hard when he's on screen, and his struggle is showing. The problem I have with the Ocean's films is that Brad Pitt and George Clooney are supposed to be these comfortable buddies, but neither of them can relax on screen, they are constantly acting. Compared to when Matt Damon is on screen, the scenes between them just seem way too busy and erratic for me to buy the fun of it.

Also now all he plays are answermen. Probably the least realistic characters ever conceived in cinema. I did like Good night and good luck though, it was good. But, his next film looks like a Rob Schneider/David Spade collaboration. Meh. I don't get the love for the guy anymore, I think he's a bit of a douchebag.

Henrik
Guest

'genre film and populist film'

I fail to see a difference ;).

rot
Guest

My Emperor New Clothes List includes the following:

Magnolia

There Will Be Blood

American Beauty

Traffic

not nearly as profound as they think they are.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

The P.T. Anderson is for another thread, but I'm kinda with you on the latter two, if only because there are similar-yet-better equivalents

American Beauty -> Happiness or Little Children

Traffic (US) -> Traffick (UK mini)

Marina Antunes
Guest

One reason to see Speed again: Keanu Reeves.

More to come.

Goon
Guest

"It absolutely destroys you with it’s grimness."

The first time I saw it I was working as a temp worker at a refinery, and I was on the fire crew (I drove the truck!) – when weather was bad we watched the same old training videos, and then one day we watched the 9/11 doc

jesus, the room was really misty most of the time, and while in retrospect the ending where they show firefighters for like 10 minutes may on paper seem like total cheese, I sat there with a dozen shift workers as they bawled like little girls. And these guys are up all night half the time on their shifts, listening to the conspiracy theory radio shows – half these people believed 9/11 was an inside job and the illuminati… and they still bawled for these people. it was a pretty amazing thing to be around.

Goon
Guest

"my new campaign: fuck Tarkovsky. Kurt you are out of your mind, Solaris is the biggest waste of time, and the most bloated relentless bore I have seen."

heh, railin against the man. But fair enough, since my campaign is against Malick's "Thin Red Line" with the same mindset.

Andrew James
Guest

Watched another 15 minutes of Speed last night before bed.. why? I don't know. Aside from the preposterousness and some cheesy dialogue, it's actually a pretty good little movie. Compelling; and you got to give it credit for being an innovative idea and one that was envisioned well.

Jeff Daniels.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

πŸ™‚ I'm still trying to parse this comments thread that is Tarkovsky & Mallick on one side and SPEED on the other. It makes me smile πŸ™‚

rot
Guest

the 9/11 doc had me crying… I am amazed how underseen it actually is… people know of clips from it used in newscasts but to see the whole doc from beginning to end from the only footage of the first plane hitting to the collapse of the one tower while within the WTC complex… awe.

now Goon, do not sully my rather sophisticated campaign towards the immediate dismantling of all praise towards Tarkovsky, with your clearly misguided tiff with the masterpiece that is The Thin Red Line. apples and oranges, Goon.

rot
Guest

Undervalued Soderbergh film: Gray's Anatomy… now that is how you monologue.

Kurt Halfyard
Admin

Agreed on Spalding Gray. Compelling speaker indeed!

rot
Guest

Did anyone see that film called 'Drunks' with Richard Lewis? very low budget I think it came out in the nineties… Spalding Gray has a bit role in it… great array of actors, nice little film.

Colleeny
Guest

Finally, some love for "return of the killer tomatoes".

George Clooney's greatest role ever!

Long Lie F.T.

rot
Guest

starting to tangents with myself but better than Gray's Anatomy is Spalding Gray's Swimming to Cambodia. I see on IMDB that Soderbergh is in production on an unnamed Spalding Gray project… this I like.

Marina Antunes
Admin

I knew KT would bring out Colleen. Man, she goes on and on and on about that movie… πŸ™‚

Henrik
Guest

"I’m still trying to parse this comments thread that is Tarkovsky & Mallick on one side and SPEED on the other. It makes me smile"

Come on… You're basically praising your own choice of topics with this comment! You seem like such a nice guy. Don't be part of a podcast containing two different films and then act like it's amazing that those two movies are discussed man! Maybe you should put yourselves to the list of people blown on this audio/comments section ;)!

rot
Guest

stalker… i will get around to seeing that because I have been told of all of his work this is the one I will probably like.

Kurt
Guest

Henrik. Henrik. A part of me is simply happy that this site exists, and that people come here to join the discussion. I don't think that it is out of line to be happy with what has been created here, especially in it's 3 month infancy.

If you think that that is some sort of narcissistic fellatio then fine. Perhaps since I'm giving myself a total reach-around, I should just ignore you completely. πŸ™‚

Matt Gamble
Guest

Jesus guys, you could at least pretend you read my reviews. BTW Andrew, it played at The Parkway about a month ago.

Marina Antunes
Guest

Matt – if it's any consolation, I do…but only after I see the films!

Matt Gamble
Guest

Heh, yes it is Marina. And I know Andrew does, just wanted to rag on his poor memory.

BTW, if In Bruges opens anywhere near you, go see it. It is ridiculously good. It may well end up being the best movie released in February and even the first half of the year.

I will also second Kurt's pimping of The Memory of a Killer. It's an outstanding film, though I don't mind the new title.

Shannon the Movie Mo
Guest

Kurt, your David Lynch comment rocked! What a crazy visual I got from that….

Great podcast guys!

Kurt
Guest

Well thank you. But you'll have to refresh me on that one. (We tend to just make stuff up as we go along πŸ™‚ )

Shannon the Movie Mo
Guest

It was something along the lines of not being inclined to watch streaming video as you could see David Lynch coming through the screen.

Henrik
Guest

I am glad you are happy with the site. Just don't praise yourselves or I will become a force of antagonism! At least I will when it's put forth as if it's something that happened with no intentions of you guys – the originators of the content.

Andrew James
Guest

The Lynch factor is always entertaining and usually pretty funny. His one word reaction to product placement in films is hilarious, but I completely disagree with him. Just like I would disagree that it's not really that big of a deal to watch a movie on your iPod or portable device while traveling. At any rate, at the normal distance, my computer screen isn't any smaller than my TV set:

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Shannon the Movie Mo
Guest

I don't have any issue with watching something on the computer. Heck, my computer screen is larger than my TV screen!

As for iPods, it just isn't for me. I can't imagine getting any sense of the atmosphere when a screen so small. I dig the portability factor but anytime I'm needing to be that portable I need to be watching where I'm going. To each their own though, everyone is different πŸ™‚

Shannon the Movie Mo
Guest

Wow, sounds like Across the Universe will be going on my "to see" list, I love films that really play with the visual like that.

re: iPod, sounds like sound logic to me πŸ™‚

Goon
Guest

since the Assassination of Jesse James has been rented out of the video store every day this week, I rented the Lookout

theres not much to say about it. I thought it was about the most definitive 'mediocre' film I've ever seen, with nothing outright eye rolling or interesting from start to finish.

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